Wednesday, November 20, 2013

Ken's Side Of The Story


Cynthia asked that Ken give his perspective on our marriage.  He gladly obliged ~
I will be happy to share from my perspective Cynthia, and how God has worked to bring us both to a deeper relationship with each other and with Him.

For years I tried to be make Lori happy by doing what she wanted me to do, yet always I failed to live up to her desires and expectations.  Even when we finally came to years of “peace,” I lived much like an island in my own home hoping not to make her upset, see her frown, or cause an argument. Lori took care of the kids, the home, the cars, the lawn, the garden, and I took care of the kids' sports, my job, my food, my ironing, and investments. Many nights Lori made her big salads which the kids loved, then they came running for daddy’s food that I cooked. Remember, most of these years Lori lived with a sick stomach and other health issues, so I had to fend for myself many days and nights.   

Between my travel schedule, and Lori’s illness, we still managed to have regular times of physical intimacy, but rarely connected on a deeper emotional.  Once the physical was over we went back to living life as partners with her managing half and me the other half.

Some time back, about 12 years ago, I decided that there were some things I needed to clean up in my life. I try to live a generous and caring life towards others, be a great father, and a good husband in many ways, but I longed to have a deeper and more intimate relationship with Lori. I went to Lori and told her I wanted her to hold me accountable for every time I said a cross word to her, changed my tone of voice, or got upset with her. I wanted to learn to express myself clearly in a caring way without upset, no matter how many times she screwed up the check book or frowned at me.

We played a game for a  couple of months where every time I started making her feel small or demeaned she would say my name, and keep saying it until I stopped.  I felt I needed to catch myself right then in the moment if I was ever going to break the back habits passed down to me perhaps from my Dad and his Dad.

“Ken… Ken… Ken” was pretty common the first month, but it did not take long to break a terrible habit and stop expressing myself in negative ways. I think I even had some sort of penalties assigned if she had to say, “Ken” more than a few times each week. It got my attention and helped me to change.

There were many things I was changing in my life at that time, and confessing to her, seeking her help to hold me accountable for them. What I discovered was that my vulnerability was leading her to finally open up and she too was becoming more vulnerable.

Intimacy is based on trust, and trust only occurs when two in a couple become vulnerable with each other. I grew up in an godly family with loving parents who got along great. Mom was submissive, Dad was loving, and the marriage seemed perfect in every way. Lori grew up with two great parents who lived like islands with Dad working 60 hours a week and Mom handling the family and home.

We both wanted what my parents had, but neither of us knew how to get there.  Fortunately at that same time we found the Pearls' at a conference on Hebrews and our lives were forever changed for the better. We both found the truths of our “new lives in Christ” that Michael teaches so clearly, and Lori found the best book I have never read, Debbie Pearl's Created to Be His Help Meet.

Lori came to me one day about ten years ago and said, “I finally figured out how we can have an intimate relationship!” I said, “I'm in… what do I have to do now?”  She paused for a moment, looked me right in the eyes and said, “There is nothing you can do. I need to please you.”

“I like the way that sounds!," I exclaimed as I headed to my office upstairs, and she came running after me saying, “No, no, what can I do right now for you, right now.”  Well, she caught me so off guard I wasn’t thinking clearly or we might have headed straight to the bedroom, but instead I said, “Well, my shirts are never ironed. Maybe you could iron some for me.”

With that she headed off to iron some shirts and ten minutes later she came back tired and said, “You know ironing is awfully tiring. Could I maybe iron a few shirts every day and at the end of the week they will all be done?”  “Lori, I just appreciate the fact you are trying to please me. Iron as many as you like, whenever you like.”

“You don’t believe me do you?” came her retort.  “Lori, all we ever seem to do is argue. If I say white, you say black. If I say its good, you say its bad. We never seem to be on the same page together.”  “That is right,” Lori responded as she put forward her had to shake mine she added, “and we will never argue again.”

I couldn’t help but chuckle watching this scene where my difficult, strong headed, beautiful inside and out woman, was really going to try and please me. I thought I had married a selfish wife and no way around it, I was going to have to put up with her selfishness the rest of my life, because she was mine, and the wife God had given me.

“Can I test you?” I asked.  To which she quickly agreed that I could test her in any way I wanted to. No time limit, no take backs, she was going to please me no matter what the costs. Vulnerability and trust had finally come after 20 years of marriage.

Well as you can imagine the next week was one of mild testing, but more so a time that I watched my doll blossom into all God wanted her to be.  I would start to wash  my own dishes and she bumped me off of the sink and said, “I will do those.” She would do anything and everything to try to please me. What we did not know at the time was she was doing all of this with not only a severe stomach and head aches, but also a brain tumor.

I do not recall if it was two days or a week later, but I found myself sitting across the table from Lori with two teenagers on either side, and we were smiling at each other and making eyes like school kids, when it hit me.  I had fallen in love with this girl much more deeply than even the day I had married her. True intimacy had arrived and we were finally connected to live life under the same roof not as two islands, but as one person in Christ.

We still had lots to work through over the next few years, but having the foundation of finding our New Life in Christ, and both trying to please each other, became the keys to unlocking our hearts to be the fertile ground for true and abiding intimacy.

Yes, we continued to struggle with some things, like arguing, but each time I would say to Lori, “You know you have been a little argumentative lately,” she would respond by putting her hand out to shake mine and say, “It will never happen again.” I no longer cared if it happened again or not, so long as I knew she was truly trying to please me and seeking after harmony in our relationship instead of fighting.

Is our marriage perfect?  Almost! If we could get rid of Lori's health issues it certainly would be close to ideal, as God has answered my many prayers and tears with the most fabulous, godly woman I know. We wasted far too many years, but God is restoring them with great rewards, especially as we watch our kids do it right from the beginning.  

If a couple wants to achieve a great marriage and true intimacy, it can be found by doing things God’s ways… WITHOUT expecting your spouse to reciprocate. Only when both spouses are sold out to do their part no matter what, does it work best. It may take 20 years as in our case, to finally get the wife of my dreams, but it was worth being faithful to all God had in store for us. 

Trust, vulnerability and love are essentials in any relationship that desires intimacy. Until a wife is ready to trust her man by trusting God at His Word, no man can force her.  All I could do was remain faithful to my calling and the demands God makes on my life while waiting patiently for Him to deliver on the desires of my heart. Is this not what faith is all about? Trusting Him even when we do not see the results we want, because we know that His promises may be slow in coming, but the are forever secured by His Word and His faithfulness.

Wives, submit yourselves to your own husbands 
as you do to the Lord... 
Husbands, love your wives, 
just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her.
Ephesians 5:22,25

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Wow! Awesome! Praise God! So encouraging and full of wisdom from the Lord! Thank you for sharing your testimony. This is what I long for, intimacy with my husband, to really know eachother and be one in Christ.
That was beautiful to read Ken. Thank you so much for sharing your perspective. I really appreciate this blog and its gentle wisdom. I have a good marriage, but this helps to keep me focused on it.
BEAUTIFUL! Thank you, we all need to hear more of these stories. And it is beneficial to hear them from both sides too. It is so true, God's ways work!!!

Your list of trust, vulnerability and love is also spot on. It is so easy to see the bad and ugly in others subsequently leading us to act not based on trust but in protection of our self justifying it by that "other" person's faults. But trust has to be given just like love, even when it is not deserved. And it isn't until we take a good look at ourselves and realize "I can only change me" then WORK ON THAT we see the others around us change. (This is partly because of what I mentioned above.) And vulnerability is all the above, giving your trust and love even if it is not deserved.
God promises if we seek we will find. If we are seeking intimacy with our spouse we will find it, when we walk in HIS ways.
3 replies · active 592 weeks ago
This is very true. Whatever we do we need to do it as unto The Lord. So even if we don't feel our spouse "deserves" our best, we must give it. I have found this to be true in every relationship. The only way to close Satan back out the door when someone has given him a foothold is to respond in unconditional love no matter how hard it is or how personally offended we are. Without the Spirit of God, sometimes it would be impossible.
So true Emily!

But part of faith in God is patience to wait upon Him. I would plead with the Lord to help Lori and me get beyond the walls that separated us, but it is only in His timing that He gives His good and gracious gifts. It would have been so easy to just give up, and at times I did, but then ran back to Him and realized that pleasing Him was far more important than having my spouse change the way I wanted, or felt I needed. Patience is another word for faith in Him.
ah, yes...you are right again.
It is very fitting that you should remind me of this because it has always been one of my weak spots. I often recall the James passage that says, count it all joy when you fall into various trials, knowing that the testing of your faith produces patience. But let patience have its perfect work, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking nothing.
It helps tremendously.
As does this blog.
Very true.
Ken, thanks for posting this. I know it can be hard to share personal details of your life, but I appreciate getting your perspective on things.

Adding the part about how you took the first step, by striving to improve the relationship and asking Lori to hold you accountable also helps to give a fuller picture. It really sounds like that paved the way for Lori's changes. I know you and Lori don't follow the doctrine of mutual submission, but it's sounds like that's what you did. You first showed her your devotion and love, and her heart was then open to submitting to you.

I have some questions, but if you or Lori feel that any of them are too invasive, please tell me. Sometimes, it's hard to convey tone over the internet, or there are misunderstandings based on different use of language or perspectives.

1. When I read your description of your life with Lori before things improved, I get a sense of a relationship where Lori was working hard for the family in general, but you were definitely not feeling loved or respected. Would you agree with that? Would you say that the main thing about the food and the ironing wasn't that you had some extra work, but that it made you feel that she was there for the kids, but not for you?

2. During those years, how would you have felt if Lori had made a point of focusing specifically on showing love and respect? For example, even if the amount of work that she did was the same, how would you have felt if she made a point of regularly thanking you for things that you did, telling you how much she missed you while you were traveling, complimenting you to others, having the kids welcome you back home and making a point of having you sit in your place at the table during dinner and leading the family in grace, not contradicting you in front of others (even and esp. the children), and dealing with any issues in private, with a calm voice and in a way that focused just on that one issue instead of getting angry and making you feel that you were failing her?

3. During those years, how would you have felt if Lori told you privately while you were traveling that she couldn't wait for you to get home, and if she suggested that you watch the kids while she took a bath and a quick nap so that she'd be ready and energized for you after? If her attitude was "I was waiting for you and can't wait, can you please do X because it makes me feel great" ?

4. How would you have felt during those years if Lori had focused on physical obedience, but not on love and respect as well? If she would do what you asked her to do, but with body language that said "my husband is an idiot" or "he's so demanding, and I'm being a martyr to God for putting up with him", slamming cupboard doors, sighing loudly, etc.? What if she wouldn't say anything to you and would silently obey, but you discovered that she considered this to be "heaping coals on her enemy's head", that she viewed anything bad that happened as a result of any decision of yours to be God teaching you a lesson, and that she told others that she was suffering for her faith by obeying you even though she didn't feel you loved her or that you deserved it, or by having intimacy even if she really didn't like it?
2 replies · active 592 weeks ago
Thanks Cynthia,

I am not sure where you see mutual submission in our story as it begins with Lori wanting me to submit to her will, my loving her, and her being won over by the Spirit to submit to her husband even if that was a scary place for her to go. No mutual in this, but ultimately both of us honoring what God demands of us, “Husband’s love your wives, and wives submit and honor your husband.”

If I had continued to submit instead of challenging Lori that she had it backwards according to God’s Word, we might still be in the same difficult place in our marriage.

Here are my attempts at answering your questions:
I do not recall a feeling of not being loved or disrespected, as what I wanted from Lori seemed far simpler than that, but certainly it may have its roots in disrespect.

1. For me I wanted Lori to go back to the girl I married, not so bossy and controlling. Lori seemed only to be this way with me, as she always knew what was best and would argue and box me into getting her own way. Life seemed all about trying to please her because she always knew what was best for me, and she was convinced she was a great wife if she gave me sex and cooked me meals. Outside of that Lori rarely showed much of any vulnerability nor truly valued my opinions, although she admired my Bible teaching. She always knew what was best because she had studied health, read her Bible more than I did, and overall just wanted her way. In her defense, she really could not see the way she was acting. I mean really… she was blind to it and thought that if she was right… what was the problem with convincing her husband? I just needed to give in. I think many strong willed wives feel this way.

2. Again, all that would have been great, but that really means she would have fundamentally changed the way she viewed how a marriage should be. I am not one who needs much ego stroking or regular thank yous. What I needed was to not have her be upset with me all the time.

When I walk in a room now I almost always get a smile. Imagine walking in the room and always getting a frown or no acknowledgement at all. This is what she had seen in her parents and carried it into our marriage. Just don’t be mad at me or seemingly upset with me all the time. And don’t try to always make me think the way you think. Just accept me for who I am and be happy.

3. I would have loved your #3, but again it required a complete conversion from focusing on self and in turn focusing on your spouse. I would have been happy with far less; just don’t complain at me with all the things your family or friends told you negatively about me since the 10 hours I left and sat on a plane. We could be getting along fine when I left on the trip and then I heard about all the complaints others were putting in her head about me. I worked too hard, didn’t help enough around the house, didn't treat her special, etc. Women getting together for Bible Study just to complain about their husbands. This is the sharing and caring part of the church right ?

The reality is that when a young spouse has no real perspective on reality they can make up things that become so big in their minds yet really do not exist, or should not be a huge concern. A lot of this goes back to Lori’s past, yet she refused to have me work with her on it for many years. Too much hurt and pain.

I am not a needy husband and I make very few demands on my wife who has been sick for many years of our marriage. So all the things you ask about are good things, but not really what I needed or wanted. Just be nice to me and recognize my good qualities as a great provider, good conversationalist, loving, caring, great father, and one of the top consultants in my field. If you cannot be supportive of me in my job, at least make my home life enjoyable with smiles and not arguing all the time.

4. My parents taught me that physical obedience with a sigh or slamming a cupboard is disobedience. True obedience comes from the heart. There are times, especially when trying to change oneself that we have to go into a mode of “wooden obedience” focused on the behavior and not the heart, precisely because we know what is right, but our bad habits and bad attitudes are keeping us from changing. True change comes when we go to our spouse and acknowledge our failures asking for their help to be changed.

At first change may come with reluctance or even upset. As in the story I just gave above I went to Lori and told her to hold me accountable for belittling her or getting upset with her by saying my name, “Ken, Ken, Ken.” It was terribly hard at first to change this habit because deep down inside I resented Lori for the pain she had caused me, but I knew that I was accountable to God for my own behavior.

Don’t wait to change bad behaviors until your heart and mind changes. Instead, tell your spouse that you are on the journey to change and that you want them to hold you accountable for not just the behavior but also the bad vibes you give off when you do it reluctantly. Kill the bad habits and bad attitudes with the help of a loving spouse and accountability.
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Lori was not really disobedient, she just had some bad habits carried over from her personality which were accentuated by her childhood. She actually thought she was a submissive wife, and in most ways she was, after she argued and frowned about it. I would accept any attempt at pleasing me, even wooden obedience as a start to where we wanted to go with our marriage. Far too many spouses agree things need to change, try to change and then blow up at each other when change does not come easy. No, if I have belittled my wife for 15 years it may take a year to stop the bad habit, and if she is used to arguing all the time it may take 5 years to stop it. Let’s be thankful that each partner is trying to do the things that God requires of them and create accountability for getting the change done.

To do what you are saying in #4 is what I see a lot of wives doing, but it is totally against what Lori and the Word of God are teaching. God is far more concerned about a change in heart as opposed to a change in behavior BUT He will take our feeble wooden attempts to change our behavior as a good first step to getting where we need to be in our relationships.

I hope this helps… and it shows the powerful work of God and Lori’s willingness to be sold out for Jesus first and foremost. Much of what Lori did was precisely because she did not have “an older woman” to teach her what God’s Word says.

She could not process the idea that by doing things God’s ways she could have all the desires of her heart because God would change her heart to see all of the good in her husband instead of the picky little things that she wanted changed.

Thanks, ken
Thanks for sharing! When I first started reading this blog, I thought this is a bit out there and would sometimes find myself frustrated with what I was reading. However in the past several months I find myself not being able to wait to read this blog daily. It's so very encouraging and I thank you so much for taking the time to share each day even through your medical challenges! God bless ya'll:)
Thank you both for sharing. Thanks for your perspective on this Ken and Lori's willingness for him posting. So many bloggers talk about being transparent but having a spouse write down a few nitty gritties is really transparent! Thank you both for sharing your wisdom.
I watched an interview with a rock star years ago, and he stated that what your life is like at 15 is what you will be writing. If your life is love and flowers, then that is what you will be writing songs about. I found this humorous, yet as time goes on, I found that we either try to recreate our childhood, or fight against it. You both had great parents, but two different lifestyles. You had to meld (I love that word), but found it difficult. I find your push-pull story to be similar to ours.
This is such a great post. As I have only discovered your blog in the past months, I missed htis post and vote that you should bring it back to the forefront...or at least parts thereof. The reason is for the example it shows.
It is not unusual for couples to live through a first "20 years" as you described. Unfortunately many couples can not make it through to the other side; they find it too late for some reasons and then later go on with looking back at how it could have been had they stayed committed.
Congratulations to you both for not only growing together but for the examples you show to your family, most importantly of all. And, your being open to share your story with a public community.
2 replies · active 532 weeks ago
Thank you, Ksdee! I just forwarded your comment to Ken!
Thanks Ksdee!

It is always strange to see our critics attacking us for who we were 25-30 years ago as if the Spirit of God has not done a mighty work since then in helping to make us "New Creatures in Christ." They must be unbelievers or immature perople to think that one cannot have personal and spiritual life changing events in their lives. Just because I married a difficult wife does not mean she has stayed that way. By the power of the blood of the Lamb, and the Spirit who lives inside of her, by lots of hard work on both our parts, we truly have an especially fun, enjoyable and fruitful marriage where we love each other and honor God at His word within our mariage.

It is fun to have someone who you are truly connected with to grow old with in a marriage and it would have all been destroyed had the world's cry for divorce and Satan gotten their way.

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