Monday, January 25, 2016

The Nature of Man and Woman ~ Chapter Eleven


Men and women are different as I have written about many times. Men have ten times the testosterone we have and they like to conquer, whether it is new land, enemies or a woman. This is their nature to do so. We have buildings, freeways, cars, airplanes, etc. because of their drive and ability God has given them. Men are also good at seeing the whole picture, which is why God created them to be the leaders. Men's nature is doubtful, skeptical, forceful and pushy.* {This can drive us crazy at times, right?} Did you know that neither Bill Clinton nor Obama would have been elected President if women didn't vote? Women used to be for abortion in far greater numbers than men. {This isn't a post to argue that women shouldn't vote. I am simply stating facts.}

Many men saw the long-term consequences and harm of electing a President who wants to make the power of the government bigger and stronger, whereas women like a government that will take care of them regardless of the long-term consequences. Many women think there should be abortion since it is "their body" and they should be able to do what they want with it, instead of seeing the long-term devastating consequences of millions of babies being murdered and affecting generations to come.

I wrote about the dangers of Jesus Calling a while ago and the author stating, "‘I knew that God communicated with me through the Bible, but I yearned for more." Do you wonder why Satan went to Eve instead of Adam? Women are more sensitive and emotional so are more easily deceived, as the Word states {1 Timothy 2:13, 14}. Eve did not follow logic; she followed her "sensibilities." She wanted "deeper" spiritual insights than those provided by God.* This statement reminded me of Jesus Calling. Sarah wanted more than the Word of God so she spoke as if Jesus was speaking and wrote a book. No thanks! Did you know that women are either directly or indirectly responsible for most of the past and present cults in Christianity?*

Man's objectivity and lack of intuitiveness make him appear less spiritual than the sensitive believing female.* This doesn't make one sex better than the other, just different and for their created purpose they are wonderful! God created women to marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully {1 Timothy 5:14}. This is what we are created to do. This is why we have a sensitive and emotional nature to bear and raise children, not to try to take the place of men in society since we weren't created with the long-term vision and strength that God gave men.

There was a discussion in the chat room about "baby fever." Some women wrote that they didn't desire children; they didn't "feel" like having them. Our feelings lie to us; never trust your feelings. I explained to them that it doesn't matter if they have baby fever or not or if they feel like having children or not. If they want to walk in obedience to the Lord, they will have children if they are able! I don't "feel" like being submissive at times or being joyful or not getting angry but I try do the right thing because I love Jesus and am so thankful for what He has done for me; it is the least I can do for Him. Never allow your feelings to get in the way of obeying God and doing good.

Then Debi wrote about the Jezebels among us. Any woman who defies the scripture's prohibition against women teachers in the Church is following in the grave tradition of Jezebel.* Besides not being leaders in the Church, we also should not try to be the leaders in our homes even if we think we are better leaders than our husbands, since our husbands will lose their natural drive to bear responsibility.* God created men to be the leaders, providers and protectors but in our "liberated" society with so many women working and having careers, it has taken away many men's desire to provide and turns God's created order on its head; chaos then reigns, as it does today.

Ruth, Esther, and the virtuous Proverbs woman are provided as examples to you of what we should aspire to be. Ruth had a thankful and submissive attitude with a willingness to work very hard. Esther was put in a difficult situation but she willingly allowed the Lord to use her to save her people. She was submissive to God's will in her life. You are also called to be women of virtue and a crown to your husband. God's created role for you is the best role you will find. You may look elsewhere but it will never come close to what God has ordained for you.

It is important for a woman to understand that she must be feminine {devoid of dominance and control} in order for her man to view her as his exact counterpart, and thus willingly respond to her protectively, with love and gentleness.* We will reap what we sow, women. You will never have a man who cherishes you if you insist on doing it your way. Once you give up your desire to have your way and instead obey God, you will be utterly amazed at how your life will fall into place. God is your Creator and His Word is your Instruction Book. Read it and live life the way He designed for you to live it. Stop depriving yourself and your husband of God's best for you.

For my thoughts are not your thoughts, 
neither are your ways my ways, saith the Lord.
Isaiah 55:8

*Quotes from the book.

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HappyHomemaker · 478 weeks ago

*So, even before Eve was created, Adam was a full-grown man, firmly rooted in his relationship with God and fully engaged in life's work.*---Pg 107

Often times I hear women talking like their husband is just a complete idiot that couldn't survive without them. It is really disgusting that they think this way. It has become a common theme among many women and gets reinforced by sitcoms ect...

*Satan knew that the man could not be deceived, but the woman could. So, when he drew near to the tree, he convinced her that life would be better if she sought the higher state of being, "like the gods"--- gaining spiritual insight into the nature of good and evil.*---Pg 107

And today still woman fall for this! Myself included, I believed that I was doing the "spiritual" thing by preaching to my husband about salvation ect... It wasn't done in a loving way, it was done in a "Look at how much more close to God I am than you, I read my Bible, I'm saved ect.." and it was wrong and sinful-- no wonder the man didn't want to go to church with me and have nothing to do with God. Who wants to learn about God from a know-it-all, holier-than-thou, unsubmissive rebellious wife?

*As a general rule, man is ruled more by his mind than the female, who is governed by her sensibilities.*---Pg 108

*We ladies are more inclined to trust in our feelings and intuition than are men, which makes us more subject to deception, just like sister Eve. Feelings and intuition are ever-changing. The Word of God is objective and dogmatic---unchanging. It is to religion what hard facts are to science.*---Pg 109

Many times in our marriage, if it were left up to me to make a decision, we would be in trouble because I tend to get emotional and that is the driving factor in my decision making, not facts, not common sense, ---emotions. Thank God that He gave me a man that can make decisions not based on emotions and I also thank God that He gave me a man that won't stand for my trying to rule over him.

*The bottom line is that women "enjoy" their own self-effusing spirituality."---Pg 109

*In the book of Revelation, it is a woman, typically called Jezebel, who deceives the church. We are told that she did it through her teaching.*---Pg 110

I firmly believe that if more churches would stop letting women run them the world would be so much better off. The world itself needs to stop letting women run everything--- I believe that women are just as much behind the issues with children today as "absentee fathers"-women cannot ever let their child fail because it will hurt their feelings and are so quick to defend those children without finding out first if that child was in the wrong. Don't get me wrong, children need love and nurturing but they also need discipline and the ability to know that everything in life isn't going to go your way just because you want it. They never allow these children to have hurt feelings or know any disappointment in life and when these kids are grown, they are crippled because all they know is that the world revolves around them and it is such a shock when they find out it doesn't. Even if dad tries to step in, mom just hushes him up cause her "emotions" say no-one hurts my baby. It is truly sad, and I wish more men would step up and take command of their household. When our son was around five, my husband told me that I couldn't teach our son how to be a man, that only a man can teach a boy how to be a man. It hurt at the time because I am an emotional person, but it is very true and I am glad he put me in my place.
1 reply · active 478 weeks ago
Great comments, HappyHomemaker. When women do their job at home bearing and raising children in the wisdom and knowledge of the Lord and men do their job as being the leader in the home, more than likely the children will grow up to be strong and productive members of society. This is how God created it to work and it's beautiful when done His way!
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HappyHomemaker · 478 weeks ago

Since my comment was too long (sorry) I had to post another reply, so here's the rest of it.

*Adam, the first man, Samson, the strongest man, Solomon, the wisest man, and even David, the man listd as being after God's own heart, were all brought down by the women they loved. When a man loves a woman and wants to make her happy, he will often acquiesce in spiritual matters because of the affection he holds for her in his heart.*---Pg 111

This was really an eye opener for me. Wow, some of the greatest men in the Bible went against what they knew was right because of a woman. Lord, I pray that I never cause my husband to go against what is right.

*What we think is spiritual, God labels "Jezebel".*---Pg 114

*A woman working beside her man is a spiritual force for them both. A woman providing good sex and fun company is offering her husband a spiritual benefit. A woman preparing healthy meals and cutting the grass so he can go fishing on Saturday is a spiritual woman, because she is placing him above herself. There is no greater love than to put another first.*---Pg 115

To be this way is my heart's desire. To be a woman that helps my husband and to be someone he is proud to come home to.

*Do you want your husband to be forced to seek supernatural power just to find a way to love you? Do you want to be another of his trials---his greatest example of overcoming adversity?*---Pg 115

I don't understand how any woman can read those two questions above and not be convicted. I sure was the first time I read this book, and with each time I re-read it. It makes me question if I am truly doing all I can to be his help meet and I can always find ways to improve.
1 reply · active 478 weeks ago
I am the same way. Every time I reread her book, I am yet again convicted in ways that I so easily forget. Thank you again for your contributions to this study!
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Daniele from Quebec · 478 weeks ago

I am currently studying Genesis, and it stroke me that Eve, Sarah, and Rebekah did took in their hands the lead and the destiny of their couple and family, and all the generations after.
Eve choose to eat that forbidden fruit, taking a spiritual decision that was her husband to take.
Sarah and Rebakah took a huge step that impacted their family and the world until now. Sarah gave her servant to her husband, trying to make real the promise of God about their posterity.
Rebekah too tried to make happen the promise God did to her. She took in her hands that crucial moment of the blessings Jacob was about to do.
In those 3 cases, these women influenced or manipulated their husband and the impact is visible until today. Pondering thoses things, I feel that it's important for me to respect and trust the leadership of my husband, and not trying to push in the direction I want. I know there will be long lasting consequences if I fail at this!
This is my second time reading this book up to CH.11, and once again, I am confused by this chapter. Can someone please help me out?
Debi, on p. 110, says Jesus illustrates it with a woman bringing in the corruption, but cites Matt. 13:33, which doesn't mention a reference to a woman bringing in corruption. She also did this on p.109 when talking about Miriam...(??)
On p. 112, when talking about Jezebel and Ahab she says Ahab "kept his face to the wall" to imply he was turning his face to her dark deeds, but when I read that section, the only time he "kept his face to the wall" was before Jezebel did any deed, and was actually doing that because of Naboth's answer.
On p. 114, Debi mentions the Prov.31 woman, and adds- " it would have extolled her for having "quiet time" and being a "prayer warrior", teacher or counselor....no such concepts are ever mentioned."
Why would we strive to be these things if she one minute, makes it sound praise worthy, while 1. She says there is no mention of women being these in Scripture and 2. Spends a large bulk of the chapter telling us to refrain from being any kind of Biblical leader, or giving way to "spiritual" ideaologies then tells us they are extolled(praise enthusiastically)?
Am I missing something here? I stopped reading it last year at CH. 11 because up until this chapter, I had agreed with her wholeheartedly....and this chapter left me the most confused! Help!!!
1 reply · active 469 weeks ago
Matt. 13:33, "He told them still another parable: "The kingdom of heaven is like yeast that a woman took and mixed into about sixty pounds of flour until it worked all through the dough." Yeast is always a very bad thing in the Word of God. Like a little leaven leavens the whole church as Paul explains; one person with bad integrity can ruin a whole church.

He kept his face to the wall before she did any deed because he didn't want to see any of the deeds.

Concerning Proverbs 31, she was saying this woman was not extolled for having a quiet time or prayer warrior but for "looking well the the ways of her household." I know exactly what she means. Throughout my life, I have known "godly" women who taught Bible studies, were prayer warriors, etc. yet were in complete rebellion to their husbands, were rarely at home, and didn't obey the Lord in areas that He specifically calls women to do such as in Titus 2:3-5.
Oops😨 I read Matt.13:13. I'm so sorry!
Thank you for clarifying the other two as well. I hope you didn't think I was trying to cause strife or anything....these passages really confused me!
I guess the "not" extolled would of made it more clear...maybe there was a misprint in my book or something. I have a female relative like that, and her marriage suffered greatly as a result.
Anyways, thank you so much again for clarifying and breaking that down for me. I appreciate it so much!
1 reply · active 469 weeks ago
Matt. 13:13, "Therefore speak I to them in parables: because they seeing see not; and hearing they hear not, neither do they understand." There are many who are blinded to the Truth and cannot understand it no matter how hard you try to get them to.

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