I am a 55 year old male. My wife and I have been married for six years. We are Christians. My wife had not been married before we met and, or course, having been raised in a solid Christian home and committed her life to Christ as a child she had lived a celibate life all those years. I was married for twenty years and lost my wife about ten years before we married.
We have a wonderful relationship but about two years into the marriage she went through menopause. All physical contact stopped, with the exception of a hello or goodbye kiss and hug when one of us is going somewhere. She feels dead from the neck down.
We have not had any intimacy of any kind in three years. I was asked when it happened, after struggling to just be intimate every few months, to no longer talking about it or even asking her. She said she just wasn’t interested, that she still loved me, but that sex was no longer of interest and she didn’t want to talk about it anymore because nothing was changing.
I have sought medical guidance from some of the top specialists in the nation and all of them say the same thing; that this is what often happens and there is nothing that can be done. Their suggestion (from three major specialists at major medical schools in different parts of the nation) is that I just need to learn to accept it and take lots of cold showers. And boy, we’ve all run out of hot water at times, well I think our home must be about to run out of cold water!
I’ve also sought pastoral guidance from a number of trusted sources and they agree that nothing really can be done unless she is willing. They do, of course, remind me that it is a sin to withhold affection from your spouse but also understand that you can’t force someone to do something they don’t want to do.
This has been very hard for me. My frustration has been great and I am to a point where I can hardly get through a day without severe struggles with my thoughts. And, it has surprised me how angry I often feel when she does nothing to bring that out in me.
After brain surgery when I was 45 years old, I was pushed into early menopause. Sure, there are some struggles in the sexual arena during menopause, but that doesn't give us a reason to stop! There is something called lubrication, serving others, and obeying the Lord's commands to us, whether we feel like it or not.
I wanted to know from this man if his wife has an older woman in her life that can confront her in her sin. She is NOT loving her husband. She is not serving him and pleasing him. She is only thinking about herself and what she wants and how she feels which leads down the path to destruction.
Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband. Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence {SEX}: and likewise also the wife unto the husband. The wife has not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband has not power of his own body, but the wife. Defraud ye not one the other.
AMY · 678 weeks ago
Lori Alexander 122p · 678 weeks ago
AMY · 678 weeks ago
Ken · 429 weeks ago
We are seeing what others have also seen, that women living in rebellion tend to go into severe depression and emotional and mental issues. One might try to argue "which is the cart and which is the horse," but often the trace back finds the rebellion comes first.
Suzen · 429 weeks ago
Ken · 428 weeks ago
That said, all you can do is keep trying to talk to him without nagging or badgering, about your needs. I believe that humans have so very few real needs in life, but intimacy does qualify as one of those, even as many live without it. And it is for that reason that the apostle Paul commands us not to withhold it from our spouse.
Have you tried being very specific as to what you would enjoy doing with him recognizing his limitations. I might request a "date night" once or twice a month where the two of you go out, enjoy the evening and agree to a time of intimacy afterward, wherever that may lead. One evening you get to design what that looks like and the next he does. The goal is joyful connections as part of your one flesh marriage.
Just like women can have emotional/psychological and physical objections to sex, yet, cannot object to what God has clearly asked of them, so too, the Believer must "do thy duty" if that is what it comes to, to meet the intimacy needs of their spouse. Challenge him with the Word on this matter and try to explore what is in his thinking that is keeping him from being able to devote two half hours a month or more to intimacy.
I don't know if you do devotions together, but our greatest times of intimacy often come from cuddling after our devotional time in bed each morning. After reading Spurgeon, then a chapter the Bible, then prayers, we cuddle, laugh and talk. We find every morning to be a time of intimacy, with or without sex.
I am always concerned when I hear a man is not pursuing a sexual relationship that he may be into porn. Obviously, at 67 this is less likely than at 27, but still a concern because it can create guilt issues that keep a spouse away from intimacy in marriage. Even as the desire for sex wanes, the desire to see the female body sticks with most men. Being willing to love and accept a spouse enough to explore and forgive a man's greatest battle can help unlock healthy intimacy in marriages. And finding forgiveness for any past issues that may be holding the spouses a part can be the key to intimacy long into one's 80's... even if the intimacy stops at cuddling and laughter.
Our best to you as the Lord leads you to once again explore this with your husband. I might gently plant the idea in his mind that if the tables were turned, and you were not physically comfortable having regular normal sex, would he not want you to lovingly help meet his needs for intimacy in other ways?
Suzen · 429 weeks ago
Joluise · 678 weeks ago
This story made me feel so sad and I pray that this couple find an answer before it tears them apart.
Suzen · 678 weeks ago
Danielle · 678 weeks ago
Blue pills, whatever pills if that's what he needs to take he SHOULD. No excuse for not wanting your wife. he should have the HEART to take/do whatever for YOU.
Lori Alexander 122p · 678 weeks ago
AMY · 678 weeks ago
Danielle · 678 weeks ago
And I've heard HRT has been linked to breast cancer. So I wasn't sold on it anyways. But what are things a woman can't do w/o HRT? Obviously lube, but mood swings, hot flashes you name it.
Lori Alexander 122p · 678 weeks ago
Danielle · 678 weeks ago
it's just the thought of not having HRT that's a bit scarey to me. Not that I thought it was healthy to begin with, but it was something. This topic just renewed my thoughts on what's to come.
Blame it on Eve right? lol
Tiffany · 678 weeks ago
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Fran · 678 weeks ago
One more thought just occurred to me. I don't know if your husband has a blog, but if he did and his audience were mostly men, I think he would make a point to share the woman's perspective and encourage men to be patient and loving toward their wives whose bodies and emotions are going through significant and often physically exhausting changes. Wives could benefit from being reminded of their husbands struggles and perspectives because it removes the wives from their own self-focus. Ditto for the husbands being reminded of their wive's perspectives and experiences.
Mrs. Mac · 678 weeks ago
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Ken · 428 weeks ago
ACM · 428 weeks ago
I just had my ovaries removed and my depression is back in full swing. My doctor has said this is because my body is not used to the hormonal shift. I'm trying several different things to avoid medication or artificial hormones.
When you are depressed you feel as though your body is outside itself. It's not always a "black cloud" and sleeping all day. Sometimes it is a tense almost anger that causes physical pain.
This poor woman and man should go to the doctor together.