Tuesday, December 17, 2013

She's At Her Wits End


This young woman is having a difficult time in her marriage. 
 This is the email she wrote to me {the names have been changed} ~

Remember me...I'm the one who is going to school full time because my husband wants me to, and so is he.  George {my husband} REFUSES to help me AT ALL with Susie {my daughter} at night.. All he does is he will bring her to me when she first wakes up, but I am always the one to feed her, burp her, get her back to sleep. I'm the one up at 11, 1, 3, and 5 every single night. I'm also the one putting her down for bed every night. He's put her to bed a total of three times her entire life.  

I've tried asking him nicely that I need him to help me with Susie at night and he said he would. We even talked to our marriage counselor about him helping more and he agreed he needs to help me out.....however, when the rubber meets the road time and time again I'm taking care of her all by myself and he sleeps the entire night through every night. I've even tried just leaving her to cry in bed with Jon, and I went to the living room couch to sleep but all he did was grumble and plop her on me on the couch. I'm so sick of his selfishness and laziness and the lack of him doing his part.......what am I to do? Not to mention he never does the laundry or cooking, and I do 90% of the cleaning.  If I keep doing what I'm doing without him helping me I'm going to become bitter/resentful towards him. I'm already very angry with him as I'm sure you can tell. 

My biggest problem is that if I just keep my mouth shut and he keeps being lazy and selfish, I am becoming angry and resentful towards him. I don't LIKE him and I don't want to be around him.   What am I suppose to do?

The world would counsel her to give him ultimatums.  Do anything to get him to help you even if you have to use manipulation techniques, right?  God tells her to love him, obey him, please him, serve him, submit to him, and learn to be his help meet. Completely opposite of what the world would tell her to do.

Most men aren't homemakers.  They aren't built to do housework and help with babies.  It is definitely much more of a woman's role.  Sure, it is great if your husband does help, but if he doesn't, it is okay.  Don't ruin your marriage over it.  We are called to be living sacrifices so live your life as a servant, serving others.

Another thing I encouraged her to do was to get her baby to sleep through the night as soon as possible.  Let her cry herself to sleep and learn to go back to sleep by herself without having to be nursed or picked up.  We all need sleep desperately and I think this mother is exhausted getting up so many times a night.  She said within four days, her baby fell asleep within five minutes.

Lastly, she needed to stop thinking and saying negative things about him.  Dwell only on thoughts and words which build him up as the Bible commands.

This was the last email I received from her ~
 Thanks for the advice.  It is helping so far. Also, I've been praying more for my husband and giving him good sex and speaking to him more respectfully. It is nice to be nice to him, and I know God is pleased!

Teach the young women to love their husbands.  
Titus 2:3,4

***Update: Her baby now sleeps through night and her husband just told her he wants her to be home full-time taking care of the family!!!

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Yes, that was wonderful advice. Unfortunatelly, women our age and on grew up accustomed to "been equals" to men, so they want them to do the same and yes, some men are simply cut up for it, but most are naturally NOT!!! My hubby was a great helper with my girls, but NEVER at night and I usually thought, well, he's got to get up in the morning and go to work. I would even sleep in the guest bedroom with the baby so she won't wake him with her crying, just like mother said, lol! I listen to my mom a lot, as she also said: 'this phase passes fast enough'...and I am very happily married and my husband...he is the best guy ever!
Hope you are having a nice C'mas season.
FABBY
This is awesome, thanks for sharing. I mean the end result is. It gave me chills just reading it. It is so hard to always be respectful, especially when you feel like they don't deserve it, I truly thank you so much for your words of wisdom and hope you continue on doing this. It's very encouraging in a world where you are told and shown to do differently.
I think you're advice is good; however, I think you are stuck in 1950. you are very blessed and fortunate to stay at home with your kids but in today's world that is hard for most possible. don't overextended yourself financially. I get it. me and my husband have ni debt other than a mortgage and I still need to work atleast part time. I think you tend to forget that most of these sleep deprived women that you tell suck it up to have to get up and go to work. I agree that men are not programmed to be domestic like us women but with so many women forced to work outside the home I believe the household responsibilities should be shared. it is draining on women to work all day like their husbands and come home to tend to all the responsibilities at home while the husband sits on the couch. I think you too often assume everyone stays at home and set unrealistic expectations for those who do.
3 replies · active 588 weeks ago
I think that her husband is rather selfish. They both go to school full-time, she goes because he wants her to, and then he expects her to come home, study, do laundry, cook/clean and look after a baby nonstop.

Yup, pretty selfish, the poor girl will be burned out in no time.

Also, God commands both MEN and women to be living sacrifices, not just women.
1 reply · active 588 weeks ago
How old was her baby? You don't mention the age in the post, and it's important for any new mother reading this to know that sleep training is not recommended for infants under 6 months. Some babies will sleep through the night earlier than that, but some will continue to need the extra nutrition. Also, be very careful of sleep training if you have a baby with reflux (like my oldest did). When we attempted sleep training with her, she didn't learn to settle. Hunger causes intense stomach pain for these babies, and she screamed until she vomited. Not only is that distressing, but it's also a potential choking hazard.
12 replies · active 588 weeks ago
I loved this post! I am so happy it worked out for them. Very encouraging as always.
Great post! Let God be true and everyman a liar. God's ways do indeed work.
thanks for your words Lori, Gods ways are always best, even if we want to do things are own way because we think we are liberated 21st century women!.
Helen
I would urge any couple dealing with a new baby to be aware of their physical limits. This isn't manipulation - it's simply information about the consequences of reaching those limits. I also agree with you that getting less than 5 hours sleep is very difficult.

When my husband was a medical resident, he simply needed to be able to have enough sleep to function at work, where patients' lives could be on the line, and he also had to be on call during the night on many occasions. That was simply a reality of life - he needed to get a certain amount of sleep, and wouldn't be home at all many nights.

That didn't mean that sleep deprivation wasn't an issue for me. It was, and we both had to live with the consequences.

By the same token, sometimes a new mom simply reaches her physical limits, and it's just not wise to push them. A friend of mine had 5 children in 7 years. She wanted a large family and was a devoted mom, but developed post-partum psychosis. The damage done to the family was enormous. Even in less extreme situations, a well-rested mom will be less prone to post-partum depression, will be able to exercise, will be less likely to get sick, will have more energy for other tasks, won't be like a zombie and will have a higher libido. Again, this isn't manipulation - it's simply the natural result of getting more rest vs. being sleep-deprived. Most husbands would prefer a well-rested wife, especially if they appreciated the difference that this would make!
I've reared nine children so I can share something that worked for me. I could never let my babies cry very long without tending to them....maybe it would have worked okay to sleep train but I just didn't. One thing that worked very well though, was finding a very comfy spot to nurse while reclining with the baby. Yes, you need to be careful & I always made sure I was tilting toward my back so that I would never roll toward the baby while sleeping. A sofa with an ottoman & pillows to keep the baby from rolling off worked well. The reason I began doing this was because I thought it to be safer than falling asleep while nursing in a chair....which I began to do. Once I learned to nap while nursing, I got more sleep than I ever had! It was great & the babies ALL learned to sleep well eventually! Love & prayers, in Jesus, Cynthia
1 reply · active 588 weeks ago
Lori,

What an encouraging post! THE REST OF THE STORY... That's what this post could be called! It shares a young wife's dilemma, being at her wit's end, then her resolve according to the biblical teachings of a Titus 2 aged woman in her life. Did the young wife have a teachable spirit? Apparently she did, for she put in practice some, if not all, of the advice her aged woman encouraged her to act out in a selfless, other-esteemed spirit.

Wow! The outcome made my whole year! This may be one of the best-of-the-best "Always Learning" posts for 2013... in my humble opinion. *wink* TO GOD BE ALL THE GLORY! *hugs*

Merry Christmas,
Kelley
1 reply · active 588 weeks ago
We are never commanded to obey our husbands. We are commanded to submit to them. Although on the surface they may seem the same but there are differences. The differences are important because one comes from the heart.
In marriage, both are called to submit. Everyone is called to submit to one another, that does not exclude husbands. The submission one to another looks different according to the role we are asked to play. For the wife it means willingly following her husbands leadership IN CHRIST. For the husband it means putting aside his own interest in order to care for his wife. The only command directed at the husband by God concerning his relationship to his wife is to LOVE her as Christ did the church. Remember, Christ died for the church. Submission is rarely a problem in homes where both partners have a strong relationship with Christ and each is concerned for the happiness of the other. I once read this statement and it helps when trying to understand the difference between submit and obey. "Submission requires love, respect and a willing yield to another. Obedience on the other hand doesn't require any personal relationship between the one giving the "command" and the one obeying the command." A soldier may obey his commanding officer but he doesn't necessarily love, respect or even care for him at all. He may even wish harm to his commanding officer. That's why God commanded submission and not obedience. Children and slaves are called to obey.
However, sometimes a husband or wife are not following God's plan for their role in marriage and you as a wife should submit even if your husband is not doing what he should. What is your motivation for this submission? You love him and hope that by being a proper example you may win him over and you don't want to harm your marriage relationship. Also, you are answerable to God for only your behavior. Your husband will answer for his, which in the case of this wife her husbands behavior is wrong(sinful). However, she should focus only on that which she has the ability to change, which is herself. Hopefully, by loving him and doing what is right even when he is acting sinfully she can win him over. This is not guaranteed to work but generally does. It is hard to continue acting in a selfish manner towards ones spouse when they exhibit self sacrificeand love towards you.
2 replies · active 588 weeks ago
I almost didn't comment on this one because the end result proved that God's ways are best. Yet, you still have people arguing with you and God's words here. How sad. To anyone advocating a divorce, the ends never justify the means. When we start to make things gray, we can slowly justify anything. I am glad this woman is trusting in the Lord and I too know from experience that this "method" I.e. doing what God would have us to do, is best.

Also, I totally agree about having the child sleep through the night. After my first child was born, I was so busy and lacked sleep so much I dealt with psychosis in the night for awhile. As soon as I got more sleep, it went away. It's amazing how lack of sleep can affect the body.

You are a blessing Lori and I pray (literally) I may meet a woman like you in real life. Until then, I'll settle for the internet ;)

Shannon
LOVE this and the outcome. So happy for this lady! I remember when both my husband and I were working full-time. We were always fighting, mainly about housework. I'm home full-time, and I now have the energy to keep the house clean, do laundry and get a good meal on the table every night. My hubby loves it and would never want to go back with my working full-time. We have made LOTS of sacrifices, and we now live in a house that is half the size (literally!) than what we were living in with 4 children now, and I couldn't be happier! God's ways really do work. I love to serve my husband and children! Nothing else has brought me more joy or contentment in my entire life.

I also would like to point out that I have an awesome hubby that helps out a lot with the kids and house work when he's home. :)
I reread the post, and one thing that struck me was that the husband SAID he would help, but didn't end up following through.

While the night waking issue has been resolved for now, here are some practical suggestions for a situation like that, which are respectful and don't involve anger or manipulation.

1. Honestly state your feelings and concerns, making statements that start with "I", not "you". So, a wife could say, "I am really sleep deprived, and find that I'm not myself because of it. I can't concentrate properly, I have no energy, my coordination is off, I'm getting angry and emotional over nothing, I'm not eating properly or exercising, and I just feel awful. I'm worried that if I can't function, I can't be there for you and the baby." That's very different than saying "You never...." or "you always...", which sounds like an attack and puts him on the defensive.

2. She can then suggest that they talk about schedules and brainstorm ideas to make sure that baby is cared for and everyone else is coping. I once did a whole spreadsheet with everyone's schedule in order to plan things at the start of one year, and I made sure to fill in all the details of things that needed to be done at home and with the kids, and set aside time for my husband to work and be on call. I did it purely for practical reasons, but when he looked at it, he couldn't help but notice how time was being spent. Sometimes, men are used to looking at just work outside the home, and a schedule helps them to really "see" all the other stuff that gets done.

3. Since he has already said that he wants to help, they can talk about what things would be helpful to her, and what wouldn't be. He may really want to help and think that he's being helpful, but not realize that his efforts would be better directed elsewhere. If they agree on a schedule and on who does what (and obviously, if one person is working outside the home and the other is not, that's a big part of the contribution to consider), then there's no need for constant nagging or reminders.
I don't understand how men can't be home makers. Men work as janitors, bakers and cooks so what means that men can't clean or cook at home?
I think the most important thing to learn here is what is a husband or wife to do when their spouse is not being godly - when they are WRONG! In almost every case, those who disagree with your advice were talking about how unfair and wrong his attitude is. Absolutely! That is a correct diagnosis. But what does that get us? We need to know more than our husbands are sometimes wrong, we need to know what God expects of us when we are treated wrongly - by anybody.

Here are some verses about dealing with mistreatment:

Matt. 5:38-48, Luke 6:27-36, I Cor 13:4-7

This is why I say that Christianity is NOT for wimps!!!!!! It is hard. It is dying to self. It is grace - treating others better than they deserve. It is walking in the footsteps of Jesus who suffered wrongly and was ill-treated, but never demanded His rights and continued to serve those who persecuted Him. This is basic Christianity, not some back-woods demeaning way of punishing wives. It is what is demanded of ALL who follow Jesus. We don't get a free pass just because the one who mistreats us is our husband. God's word still applies.

This is a link to a video that strengthens me. I need to listen to it DAILY! It is only when the rubber meets the road - in the hard times - that "for better or WORSE" becomes real. It's called "God's Glory in Marriage".
http://youtu.be/ZACkRe_W4Gg

Thank God, Lori, that she came to you and not others who would have led her on to tear down her home with her own hands!
3 replies · active 587 weeks ago
My husband was out of town, one boy was sick, two snow storms with tons of shoveling thanks to the plowers who wedge my car in. I just couldn't read how a woman worn down having a lazy husband. Brought back too many memories. After years of being expected to meet unattainable, phantom standards, I let the hammer fall and let him be shattered to pieces. That transformed him as there were consequences to his actions.

The man is head of the household, and will be held accountable for his home. Running his wife to the ground is not leadership. I am glad that you help and everything worked out well.

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