Sin destroys relationships. Once Eve defied her husband's leadership, took control, and ate the apple, sin infected everything. It destroyed relationships between mothers and their children, "I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children"{Genesis 3:16}. Most women do not enjoy raising children. Many children are difficult and rebellious. This is why older women are commanded to teach young women to love their children which includes disciplining them.
Sin destroyed marriages. "And thy desire shall be to thy husband and he shall rule over thee"{Genesis 3:16}. There is no way this means wives will desire their husbands sexually for that would not be a curse. In fact, husbands would love that! Before sin, Eve desired her husband sexually. The only time the word 'desire' is used in the Penatuch, the first five books of the Bible, is in Genesis 4:7 and refers to sin's desire to control.
Sin put enmity between the wife and husband. Throughout the centuries, wives have had the desire to control their husbands and be rebellious. Husbands, because of sin, want to lord it over their wives in an evil and unloving way. They are the stronger ones and in many eras and cultures, women have been physically and sexually abused by men.
Sin put enmity between the wife and husband. Throughout the centuries, wives have had the desire to control their husbands and be rebellious. Husbands, because of sin, want to lord it over their wives in an evil and unloving way. They are the stronger ones and in many eras and cultures, women have been physically and sexually abused by men.
This is the result of sin and the curse. The farther away people walk from God, the more sin will infect them. Children will grow up to be rebellious and hate their parents. Wives will be rebellious and seek to control their husbands and husbands will try to lord it over their rebellious wives.
But God...He sent Christ who lived a sinless life, was crucified on a cross to bear the punishment of our sin and take away the sting of death. We are now new creatures in Christ. He makes everything new.
Now, we wives can be saved* through childbearing if we live godly lives {II Timothy 2:15}. We will raise our children in the nurture and the admonition of the Lord. We will discipline our children and teach them self-control. We can raise godly offspring that bring joy and happiness into our lives.
We can be gentle and submissive to our husbands. We can allow them to lead, respecting and honoring them in everything. They will be the head of our home. Our husbands will be godly leaders who seek the best for his family. He will be our provider and protector. He will love his wife and children and there will be peace in the home.
Homes where there is a head and Christ as its center have peace. When we love God and seek to obey Him, we nullify the terrible effects of the curse.
Praise God He made a new way for us!!! It is good. His ways are NOT bad. The world's ways are bad and lead to destruction. Believe God at His word and do things His way and you won't believe the blessings that will flow from your life.
*I believe this means she will be saved from the effects from sin if she lives a godly life. She will have a strong marriage, children who walk in Truth, etc.
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Amanda Lou · 581 weeks ago
One thought on 1 Timothy 2:15 is that there could be reference as well to the Savior being born by a woman through childbearing. I'm certainly not the most learned scholar, but because Jesus was born of a woman, our salvation could then come via childbirth.
Ken · 581 weeks ago
There is no doubt that a large part of a women's salvation through child bearing comes by a women who ultimately bears the Messiah, Jesus our Lord and Savior.
It is a curious verse, because remember that Paul knew that salvation had already come, yet he repeats that " she will be saved through childbearing—if they continue in faith and love and holiness, with self-control" (1 Tim 2:15).
By implication this must mean that there is still more work to be done by women in this important area of life that somehow relates to her salavtion.
I like what Mark Driscol concludes when he says:
Simply put, verse 15 should be read, “Women will be preserved [from the attacks of Satan] by [adhering to their God-given role of] childbearing [and raising].” Similar to View 2, this perspective also takes “childbearing” to refer to the raising of children as well."
http://pastormark.tv/2011/10/25/tough-text-tuesda...
helen · 581 weeks ago
God bless
Helen UK
ps still praying for your health, you are on my regular list :)
Lori Alexander 122p · 581 weeks ago
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Ken · 581 weeks ago
Concerning rebellious children, there is no doubt that some Christian parents can perhaps be excellent at developing their children's spiritual life, yet each child has free will to choose to walk away from the Lord. My experience is that generally the Christian child brought up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord does never depart from His ways... 96%??? But a small fraction do turn away and it is often the result of one of two things:
1) An addiction... sexual or drugs or alcohol... or lost to mood enhancing drugs.
2) If they attend a secular University and begin to walk away from their roots, replacing what they have been taught with man's wisdom and the wisdom of the world.
In both cases we often see such people return to the Lord in their later years, and that is always our prayer for a child brought up in the Lord.
The parable of the Sower and the Seeds is true even for children born into Christian families, but I stand by my 96% will be saved... or high %, and that if a whole flock from a family are walking away from the Lord I would want to evaluate how the parents did in instilling Christ and God's ways into their children. Losing one is always a possibility, losing them all is pretty much unheard of in solid Christian families.
And sadly, too many Christian parents are not taught how to instill Christ and the joy of the Lord in their kids :{. If a child only sees Mom and Dad go to church each Sunday, yet nothing else is different from their family and the rest of the neighborhood, that can create a lot of confusion in their minds.
Kim · 581 weeks ago
vs 14-15: curse to the snake (is he cursing Satan?)
vs 16: curse to Eve
vs 17-19: curse to Adam. I find it interesting that he spend most time with Adam.
Had not this happened, the snake would not be a hated animal, women would not have childbirth pains and would not have power issues with husbands, and men could easily produce crops. I going to leave the snake out of the rest.
Childbirth is used in Hosea 13:13, Romans 8:22, and Galatians 4:19 as this painful period of sin, before the realization of Christ. As for children, they are a heritage (Psalm 127:3), arrows (Psalm 127:4), and sign of God's blessing (entire conversations with Abraham, for starts).
The ground is cursed, but the righteous had success (Abraham, Jacob, David, Solomon), barn are full (Prov 3:10), peace and prosperity is in the land (Lev 26).
These curses are reminders of the price we pay for our disobedience. Through obedience, we have the results of blessings.