Does putting one in authority corrupt the one in authority? Another author from another Christian blog did a post about submission and believes having authority usually corrupts. This is why God's standards of biblical submission given to wives must be wrong for today. Some of the comments from this post were very interesting to say the least. I thought I would share a few so you can know some of the arguments against submission and how they manipulate Scripture in order to come to their conclusions. These comments were directed at me in response to comments I made supporting biblical submission ~
I think why you have such a problem with certain readers
questioning if your postings are biblical is because they know that they are
fighting against the tides. They cling to their view of the bible and want
women to stay home and be kept under their husband’s authority. They keep
pushing their agenda, because they know society is turning against submission.
Women are now holding positions over men. They are doctors, lawyers, and policy
makers. I don’t have anything against submission, BUT it is a woman’s decision.
A small circle of women may choose submission, but the majority will not. I
don’t think they are personally against you, but they are certainly against
women not having choices. Maybe you should limit the number of responses from the
readers who are distracting your message? Just a thought.
In Ephesians
6:5-9, detailed instructions are given on how to treat our slaves. Well, by
that logic would that mean that it is Biblical to have slaves? Wait, not only
Okay Biblically but must be seen as a command; "Let’s all go out and get some slaves,
right after all the women blindly submit to their husbands." Hmmm… sometimes it’s
tough when we read more than just the convenient verses. Sadly, such verses
probably were used to keep people enslaved not too long ago in our human
history. And now are keeping some women “enslaved” by enforcing a cruel
submission.
Whether or not we obey God is our choice as believers? God tells us that if we love Him, we will keep His commands {John 14:15}. God
clearly teaches wives to be submissive to their husbands. Are women being
submissive to their husbands equated with having slaves? No, in fact, Paul does say this to slaves in 1 Corinthians 7:21, "Were you called while a slave? Do not worry about it; but if you are able also to become free, rather do that." The Bible NEVER endorses slavery. Is wifely submission defined as being enslaved by cruel submission? On the contrary, wifely submission may win a disobedient husband to the Lord! These comments made to me are a perversion of Scripture in an attempt to water down submission.
God’s
Word never changes. It is the same yesterday, today, and forever. Submission is
as relevant and as powerful as it ever has been. It produces peace and order in
marriages, in families when children submit to their parents and in societies where citizens submit to the laws of their land.
Know your Bible so you aren’t tossed around by every wave of doctrine which is contrary to God’s Word. The only way you will know counterfeits is by knowing the Truth. Study God’s Word daily. Measure everything you hear by it, including my words. Be wise as serpents and innocent as doves when it comes to evil. Stand firm in the wisdom and knowledge of God.
Know your Bible so you aren’t tossed around by every wave of doctrine which is contrary to God’s Word. The only way you will know counterfeits is by knowing the Truth. Study God’s Word daily. Measure everything you hear by it, including my words. Be wise as serpents and innocent as doves when it comes to evil. Stand firm in the wisdom and knowledge of God.
As a result, we are no longer to be children,
tossed here and there by waves
and carried about by every wind of doctrine,
by the trickery of men, by craftiness in deceitful scheming.
Ephesians 4:14
helen UK · 515 weeks ago
thank you for this post, people pick and choose what they want to believe. I have had a disagreement with a well known Christian Blogger who has thousands of followers over a similar issue. She has claimed that submission was 'of that time' and followed the household codes of the time and hence, don't apply to us in the 21st Century.
There has been and always will be attacks on Gods word won't there Lori?.
Blessings to you
Helen UK
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Mark 10:42-45
Jesus called them together and said, “You know that those who are regarded as rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their high officials exercise authority over them. Not so with you. Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant, and whoever wants to be first must be slave of all. For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.”
Yes, worldly authority is often corrupt because the world sees authority as being over and ruling over someone. However it is not to be this way among God's people. If you want to have true authority you do not earn it by exercising authority over others, but by serving them. Not just in words, but in deeds.
Lori Alexander 122p · 515 weeks ago
I am speaking about the authority husbands have over their wives since the Bible commands women to submit to and obey their husbands in everything, just as children are to submit to and obey their parents, citizens are to submit to and obey their government and the Church submits to and obeys Christ.
It has to do with who is the one in charge, who makes the decisions and the one who leads. It's wonderful if husbands, parents, and governments serve those they are leading and are benevolent leaders but the Bible doesn't make a distinction as to whether or not those in leadership positions are great leaders or not. In fact, wives are commanded to win disobedient husbands without a word by their godly behavior; by becoming godly, submissive wives.
The world and even many in the church want to make the word "authority" corrupt when it comes to a husband's authority over their wives so wives can have a way out of obeying God in this area. Then most wives become the leader of the home. There's always a leader, always. A biblical marriage is supposed to have the husband as the head and leader of the home. He has the God-ordained job to lead the family the way that he wants to lead it.
Ken · 514 weeks ago
Jesus is pretty strong in affirming that all of his followers are to keep his commands:
“If you love me, you will keep my commands” (John 14:15) and “"Not everyone who says to Me, 'Lord, Lord,' will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter” (Matt 7:31).
Jesus and the Father actually use their authority to discipline their followers who do not do the will of the Father:
“For they disciplined us for a short time as seemed best to them, but He disciplines us for our good, so that we may share His holiness. All discipline for the moment seems not to be joyful, but sorrowful; yet to those who have been trained by it, afterwards it yields the peaceful fruit of righteousness (Heb. 12:10-11).
My point is that Christian leadership always exercises its God given authority for the purpose of servant leadership, but this includes rebuke, and discipline, if one is to emulate Christ, and serve as God does His children.
There is no abuse of authority for a husband to be determined in his will to move his wife to where he feels the Lord desires, so long as he does so in love and with a servant’s heart. To serve does not mean a wimpy husband who is unwillling to speak the truth in love, and do what it takes to serve his wife in both service and loving discipline, if necessary. These two necessary tools are part of all leaders' responsibilities of leadership.
Kim · 515 weeks ago
I am the domineering one, and for years I took the power because my husband would not. About 3 years ago, I decided this was not right, I was exhausted, and tired of thinking for everyone. I decided to let things fail. After much chaos in our lives, he stood up, and told me recently that he wants me to take charge of certain things. I am making the same decisions today that I made years ago, but this time it is from his delegation, not from my power.
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The power of Jesus living among us is supposed to make us different. Unbelievers should be able to actually see the difference that love makes in our lives, they should be able to actually see that love. The love of a husband who puts aside his own wants and desires and lays down his life for his wife. The love of a wife who puts aside her own wants and desires and submits to her husband. The love of believers taking care of one another and serving one another. A lamp set on a hill. This is Christianity. It is not found in worldly ways.
Jesus says worldly leaders "exercise authority" over others (aka they are in charge). It is not to be so in the church. Again, he said it is not to be that way among his followers.
If everyone is seeking to follow Jesus that is who is leading. Yes, we do need someone to lead, there will always be a leader. Among believers that leader is Jesus. Do we trust him to lead us?
Wives winning disobedient husbands is a one sided situation. Wife is serving God, husband is not. That is a different situation than a husband and wife both following the Lord. If they are both serving God, then they will both serve each other and their fellow believers because being a believer is about serving others.
Lori Alexander 122p · 515 weeks ago
All of these women are winning their husbands to the Lord and to themselves, NOT by telling them what kind of a leader they should be but without a word, by becoming godly women and allowing their husbands to lead without nagging, manipulating or controlling them.
I am commanded by God as an older woman to teach young women to love, obey and submit to their husbands. God didn't tell me to teach them what kind of a leader their husbands should be. This isn't my job. If I did, it would lead to more expectations which is already destroying most marriages. Not one woman that I have mentored has gotten divorced, by the grace of God. Most of them are very happily married. God's instructions to us work.
Rob · 515 weeks ago
Does putting someone in authority corrupt them?? To me only if their heart is not right!!! Any husband who who abuses his authority or is corrupt in any way towards his wife, then will have to answer for that. Headship and submission is a beautiful thing and brings harmony to the home. If we trust in Christ then we will do as we are commanded and our hearts will lead to glory!!!!
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