Monday, February 20, 2012

The Perversion Of Universities


This is a volatile subject!  People have VERY strong opinions about this topic as seen on the many comments on Girls Going To College.  It seems most disagree with me, but that is okay.  I am not God and I don't know everything.  I just write my own convictions.

Cassi went to Biola University her freshmen year.  Biola stands for Bible Institute Of Los Angeles.  It is a good university.  It is one of the handful of universities left that still teaches Truth.  She especially loved her Bible classes.  The professors were good teachers.

She went to a community college near home when she was nineteen years old.  It only cost $400 a semester which was much cheaper than Biola.  The first assignment given to her in her sociology class was a fifteen page study on gay bathroom sex.  She read the first half page full of explicit details and was disgusted.  She showed Ken and he told her that she wasn't going to read anymore and to email her teacher.  Her teacher told her she had to read it or it would affect her grade.  She dropped the class.

When I told a friend about this recently, she thought Cassi should have written a response to it showing the other side of the issue.  I told her that the Bible tells us not to even know what perversion happens behind closed doors.

For it is a shame even to speak of those things which are done of them in secret.
Ephesians 5:12

To be wise about what is good and innocent about what is evil.
Romans 16:9 

To dwell on the lovely, the pure, and the good.
Philippians 4:8

Several years later when she was twenty one years old and grounded in her faith, she went to the local university.  One class discussed gay sex in prisons. On gay pride day, several of her classes spent the whole class time discussing gay lifestylesI don't think there are many parents out there that pay big bucks for their children to learn this trash.

Dennis Prager believes higher education is the single most destructive thing in our society.  It has taken God completely out of the teaching and instead is teaching humanism and left wing ideology.  They teach the government is the answer to all our problems when the welfare state has destroyed families.  They teach that abortion and homosexuality are good things.

I know many of you think higher education is great.  If you can afford it without going into deep debt, if you don't mind left wing indoctrination or if you do and can find a good Bible teaching college or online college, then go for it.  I just want you to be wise.  Don't go blindly along with what society is doing.  It is the broad path that leads to destruction.

O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:  Which some professing have erred concerning the faith. 
I Timothy 6:20,21

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Wow. I attended a university in Utah and I didn't ever hear about ANY of those things in my classes. Maybe because it is a heavily Mormon dominated state? I don't know. But I'm glad I didn't have to hear about any of that!
AGREED. I've been to (2) community colleges, a huge state school AND finally graduated from a private Christian university near Chicago. The differences are staggering but I will say that those Christians in the trenches at the state universities have much more fire and resolve, in my experience, because they've been thrown into shark infested waters and came out stronger believers, more capable of witnessing and knowing how to handle the lost world. I got to a point where I was so isolated with ONLY christians that I forgot that there is a world dying and going to hell. State school was eye opening to me. We're called to be in the trenches fighting evil, in my opinion. But obviously my Christian college was preferred. Beware--secular humanism is sneaking into Christian schools too!
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Amen! I will be so much more proud of my daughters for fulfilling their calling to be homemakers in training, wives, and mothers, God willing, than the highest degree they could earn to make them more "worthy" by worldly standards!

My husband is highly educated, and I have a partial college education. My husband did so debt free, and we will encourage our sons to figure out their careers..whether it be through apprenticing, military, college, trade school, or good old fashioned employment with the opportunity for advancement. Their worth to us, is not based on their worldly achievement, either. So long as they are living according to obedience to Scripture, and fulfilling their responsibility to provide for their families, I feel blessed beyond any worldly degree.

It's sad to me so many Christians even limit their family sized based on what college savings they can provide..without any contribution from their children...

God cares not about worldly achievement, but rather humility and submission to His Word.

Despite my husband working his way through college, and using his GI bill to attend a very good Bible college, sexual promiscuity, compromise, partying and every other sin was rampant. Anytime you pair immature young people with freedoms beyond their ability, and many done so without any personal stake (financial or otherwise) applied, you are doomed and ripe for sin and indoctrination into secular humanism, social justice, and anti-biblical and feminist based lies.
I think finding a Christian college or university to attend that can give you a fun college experience WITHOUT the sinfulness that can come along with dormitory living is a good thing. I went to state college for one term and four weeks in was planning a transfer to a Christian univeristy. We had floor hours (when people of the opposite sex could be on our floor) including a card lock system and a twice a week chapel hour with a minimum attendance required. However, it was expensive and it was not considered a big thing in my family growing up to incur debt for college (kicking myself now, for the debt only...the experience was amazing!)
There is no reason anyone should be subjected to such things. Such perversion of the educational system!
Wow, I agree. College, and public education in general, can be a very scary place.
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First problem is that people need to take actually academic subjects and not these social psudo courses. How about the core academic courses, physics, math, logic, classical literature and foundations of western civilization, accounting? You won't have these problems and you will develop the critical thinking skills and base of knowledge to succeed.
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I am shocked, and ill to my stomach! :-(
If you keep your children from higher education, it just means they will have less influence and financial security in the future. The leaders of our country--who make the laws--all have advanced degrees.
Great post on a topic that is dear to my heart! Thank you for sharing your convictions, and the scripture to back it up. I've never deliberately written a controversial post on my blog, but you may have just inspired me to do so by sharing my experience. :-)
I think that part of the learning process is to ignore the things you dislike at university, and enjoy the aspects you do like. You don't mention Cassi's education beyond the homosexual issues. Weren't there many good things that she enjoyed and benefited from?

One of the things I learned in college was that I wasn't going to agree with everything everyone said. That didn't mean I had to run away from it. I took the good with the bad, and it prepared me well for life!
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We don't subscribe to institutional (government/state) education but I, myself am an art grad. Sadly this is *one* of the reason I no longer subscribe.
Reading the assignment given was like a dagger piercing through my heart.
We are blessed to have information and communication at ones fingertips so that an education can be easily harnessed. So THANKS for sharing the above experience so that others may make more informed decisions!
I went to a Catholic college, and while it did still have higher moral standards than the public universities, the liberal views of professors were shocking. I remember being a newly saved, 19 yr old mother and being told that post-birth abortion up to age two was not barbaric, but a good thing because babies and toddlers have no personality. I could not believe my ears.
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I would have to politely disagree. While I would certainly not want my son exposed to such topics while in K-12, I would not/will not discourage him from attaining higher education for fear of what is being discussed among adults. As a mother, it is my job to help him be spiritually prepared. When evolution is discussed in his public education classroom, he confidently expresses his personal beliefs in Creation. It is my prayer that when he reaches college age, he will again stand up with such conviction – and possibly reach out to someone who would have never heard of God’s word otherwise.

Opposing world views are certainly not limited to college. Whether it’s a coworker, another parent at the park, or the person behind us in line at the grocery store…be assured that our children will be confronted with it at some point in their adult lives, and most likely numerous times. And as Christians, we are called to be a shining light in a lost world. Satan has them bound – and Mark 16:15 tells us we must go to them.

If I had a daughter, my opinion would be the same. I was a first-generation college student and I obtained invaluable life lessons during my college experience. Lessons that helped mold my character and faith. Lessons that shaped me as a wife, a mother, and a child of God. After graduation, I obtained employment in an area that requires a college degree. (I would like to add that my husband and I paid my college tuition out of pocket and I had no college debt upon graduation.) Several years later, after our child was born – I desired to stay at home with my son. However, due to debt related to our infertility struggles, our personal situation required that I return to work for some time. I prayed that if it were His will, God would allow me to stay at home with my son. However, He had other plans for me. Thirteen years after I signed my first contract, I am still employed in the same position. And over time, God has revealed to me some of His reasons for keeping me in this role – which ironically, is in education. I am in contact with hundreds of individuals each year – many of them lost and hurting. Hundreds of souls who hear and see my words and example. Hundreds of opportunities for me to show a Christ-like love and servant’s heart.

Each situation is different – but I feel that God calls us to stand up and stand out for Him – not to hide. It is my duty as a mother to ensure that my son is well-grounded in his faith and convictions when that time comes for him to spread his wings. Please know that I respect the fact that we all must make personal decisions in the best interests of our family, but I wanted to present an opposing view as “food for thought,” if nothing else.
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And Josh McDowell, himself, was led to Christ by the example of a group of fellow students while in college. :)
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Did you read the whole assignment, or just stop at the gay bathroom sex? Being that it was a sociology class, perhaps it was about how some people have to hide the choices that they make in life and are forced to do very degrading things as a result?

Obviously I have no idea what it actually was about, but perhaps you missed the forest by staring at the trees. Perhaps this could have been a really interesting paper for your daughter to discuss how being separated from the mainstream alienates her...
I don't think that kids should be denied an education for the sake of hearing things that they don't want to admit really happen. I certainly don't agree with gay bathroom sex or gay sex in prisons. Or anywhere else personally. But it happens. And closing our eyes to the situation won't make it go away.

Finding out that these things exist is always shocking and eye opening for someone like me who lived a very sheltered life growing up. When would it be okay? If 18 or 19 isn't good, would it be any better at 25 or 30?

I attended a public university for 4 years starting when I was barely older than 17. Guess what? I attended church while there (although not each week), I made some stupid mistakes, I made some great friends (some of which who were just like me and some of which lived very different lifestyles), and I solidified my beliefs. No, it doesn't happen that way for everyone, but living in that environment prepared me for the real world. The real world where gay sex does happen in bathrooms, whether or not I like it.

Knowing these things happen, meeting people they happen to, and learning to love them despite their choices is how we are later able to relate to them. Not because I have "been there, done that" but because they might listen to my beliefs once they understand I genuinely care about them and their hurts and issues. I don't have to agree with them to care about them. And I'm never going to meet them if I don't join the rest of humanity.

And yes - I had to read about gay monkey sex in a sociology class. It was disturbing. But I wrote my paper, took my grade and moved on with my life. It was part of the core curriculum of my school and I wasn't able to get around it. I dealt with it and moved on with life. I did not feel indoctrinated or anything because of it because I knew my beliefs and morals.

Just my two cents.
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tia bennett · 683 weeks ago

I went to a large liberal arts university in Indiana, Purdue. I received my bachelors degree in Nursing. I was never presented anything like this. What kind of degree is she trying to get? geez

I believe educating a woman is very important and would not trade my degree in. It has helped our family out on more than one occasion. Education is never a waste, even if it is learning what not to do.

I love the African quote:
If you educate a man you educate an individual, but if you educate a woman you educate a family (nation).

Probably a Fanti ( Ghana )
How would it be possible to accurately study the sociology of our society without investigating the various phenomena that are at play regarding homosexuality?

Perhaps it is simply an issue with her chosen field of study. One would not expect to study medicine without seeing nudity, nor chemistry without encountering poisons and explosives. One would not expect to study agriculture and never see manure. Once can simply not expect to study sociology accurately while overlooking and never discussing the gay lifestyle.

If I decide to support a child of mine in the study of sociology, I would that my funds had been misused if the program I paid for avoided discussing any and all sinful behaviour. That would be a ludicrous travesty of an education. Even if I'd rather people were overcoming homosexual temptation rather than glorifying it -- even for that goal it's obviously important to study and understand the phenomenon and its expressions.

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