Young women are being told from Christian pastors, teachers and well-meaning parents everywhere that they should dress modestly. There is a push from the world to dress immodestly and those of us in the conservative Christian corner are exhorting the young ladies to a higher standard. If we are immodest, we are rebuked, and rightly so.
I {Psalm1Wife} am going to submit a reason to dress modestly that is different than what you have likely heard. If you're like the rest of us, the reason that comes to mind is that dressing provocatively can cause our brothers-in-Christ to sin and would make us a stumbling block. {Romans 14:13; James 1:14-15} This reason has been drilled into every private schooled, homeschooled or fundamentalist's daughter's head from the time she was a teenager.
When this reason is solely being taught and reiterated to young women, it can be a very dangerous thing when these young women get married. Wives are always searching for a reason to control their husbands. When we teach young women that the only reason they must cover up their bodies is because it is their responsibility to keep their brothers-in-Christ from sinning, we are subconsciously telling them that it is their job to not allow their husbands to sin. Could this be another way we try to control men and even maybe our husbands? We are training our brains to think that if it weren't for women making the moral choice to cover up, men would automatically sin by lusting after our bodies and this encourages women to have a distrust of men and a sense of spiritual superiority over the male species in general.
Men and husbands are responsible themselves to refrain from sin, not women or wives. Dressing in a way that does not draw attention to our bodies is a good safety measure in defense of the very few men who may overpower us and take advantage of us because of the temptation that revealing our flesh will elicit, but keeping men from sin is not our responsibility; it is the Holy Spirit's. Which brings us to the real reason that women should not dress provocatively ~It is a sin, our sin.
We are neglecting a very crucial part of immodesty ~ how good it makes us feel to be lusted after. Men have a desire to have sex and they are visually stimulated by a woman's body. God answered this desire by creating a wife for a husband whose body is solely his. But people tend to think the buck stops there, when in fact, it does not.
Men are not the only ones with desires. Women have a desire to be lusted after by men and God answered this desire too. He gave us a husband to dress provocatively for and elicit raw, sexual attraction from.
When women dress immodestly, we are seeking that exciting rush from others, besides our husband. The same women who dress this way, will condemn their husband for lusting after women through pornography or through checking out some scantily clad girl in the mall. No one says anything to the wife, whose skin-tight jeans with rhinestones on the bottom that may as well be a well-lit landing strip with arrows and a service man holding flashing lights directing every man's eyes directly to her rear. Or the women who wear cleavage bearing shirts or extremely form fitting clothing with the purpose of drawing attention to our flesh.
I remember one time, before I realized my grave sin in flaunting my body for other men to see besides my husband that I was envious of a woman I knew that had gotten her breast size surgically enhanced. I was telling her how much I would also like to have this done and that instead of just making my breasts larger, it would be nice to have them cosmetically enhanced as well. She answered me that there is no need because it costs more and no one, besides your husband will see them anyway. In my wickedness, I agreed with her. She outwardly and blatantly exposed the fact that a woman's desire is to be attractive for others, besides her husband, to the point of saying that a breast enhancement that would be making her look more attractive in a way that others would not notice would be a waste of money and I understood her logic and agreed with her. Woe is me!
A woman's temptation to dress immodestly for attention is just as dangerous and sinful as a man's temptation to look at a woman. This is a very real and serious topic and so it is also important to remind ourselves that our husband is our authority and we must not cause dissensions in our marriage because we have been moved to throw out all of our pants and boots. If you are convicted to change your wardrobe, talk to your husband first. The point I am making is that he is the one we should dress for. If your husband wants you to wear tight jeans in public, you should obey him but we must acknowledge the error in neglecting our own sin, as women, of enjoying the flattering attention from others that comes from immodest dress and the error of conditioning ourselves to thinking that the only sin committed is on the part of the man who looks at us.
In conclusion, keep your finger pointed at yourself and do not dress immodestly. Not because it will cause the brothers-in-Christ around you to sin, but because it feeds your own desire to be wrongly lusted after and noticed by other men. A godly man's perspective on the subject of modesty and all of the excuses that ensue is as follows ~
If you are like me and have been seeing and doing things wrong for your whole life, things like this are hard to hear. All the talk of the “utility” of immodest workout clothes, sports uniforms, comfort clothes, etc. is an alluring sidetrack. It appears like a shortcut through the wilderness of moral choices, but it leads to Sheol.
Your heart will tell you lies to make sin appear reasonable. Friends and even respected elders will make to you excuses for immodesty...anything to try to make you feel bad for choosing modesty before trivialities. That’s what uber-efficient work-outs, amateur sports, or a smidgen more comfort in the supermarket are: trivialities. Do not be deceived! You must choose what you love.
If we love to serve God, we will not sin against Him and our husbands by ignoring our desire to be lusted after by other men and continue to suppress the fact that that is a core reason that we may dress immodestly. We will choose what we love. If we love that attention, we will remain in the dark and continue to hush the taboos of modesty ~ how enjoyable it is to be attractive to all men and that we must work against this desire at all cost.
Like a gold ring in a pig's snout is a
beautiful woman without discretion.
Proverbs 11:22
Rachel · 528 weeks ago
Yes, I also agree about the rhinestone bottoms. We do not allow our daughters to wear any decorations on their bottoms. As always, attention should be drawn to the face :)
Good post, and I totally see what you're saying about getting the attention of men.
I also think that we do all have responsibility to society to look nice in public. Dressing sloppy and immodestly is certainly a selfish behavior, seeng that others have to look at us.
I imagine that other ladies may just not know, and so mercy is always appropriate. I have worn questionable things myself and I would not want the scorn of other women, just their loving help.
Maria · 528 weeks ago
donalgraeme 22p · 528 weeks ago
Ksdee · 528 weeks ago
In a culture that has the means and designs to make all types of fashions, we see lots of artistic expression.
The Bible speaks of modest clothing. The Bible speaks of women who are not covering their heads, to wear their hair shorn.
An interesting topic.
deepstrength 2p · 528 weeks ago
My recent post on Fifty shades had some analysis that Donal suggested I post over here cause it deals with modesty:
"From what I can discern the attraction to authority is based on trust: women want to be in the care of authority (or headship) because it makes them feel safe and protected. However, as I believe Dalrock has said before they also want the emotional thrill of being in potential danger. They desire to be safe but in [potentially] unsafe situations. Let’s take this one step further.
This is the ending of the movie Titanic. This is why women want to dress how they want out in public, or walk down dark alleys late at night, or be able to drink as much as they want. The “law” becomes their authority figure in this case which absolves them of responsibility, and therefore they can engage in potentially unsafe behavior if they want because they will be protected. If they engage in unsafe behavior, they cannot be blamed because they are protected 100% by the law. Anything else becomes “victim blaming” or “victim shaming” and we can’t have that. It’s all black and white.
Inherently, this is the exact same moral argument that underlies modesty and chastity. The attitude that “I should be able to wear what I want because it’s the other person’s duty to take responsibility for how they respond” is based in shifting responsibility of actions solely to implied “authority” figures (e.g. from Christian women to men). Even though those same Christian women would argue that women are not under the authority of such Christian men. Much less in normal relationships, and maybe not even in marriage.
All choices have consequences. Even if what you choose is not “illegal” or “immoral” that still doesn’t make choices you make the opposite — prudent, wise, or good. I believe this is the main thrust of Paul’s arguments about food sacrificed to idols in Romans 14 and 1 Corinthians 8. As Christians we are held to a higher standard: we should care not only about ourselves but also about how our choices may negatively affect our fellow brothers and sisters in Christ. Even if we aren’t in the “wrong” or doing anything “illegal” or “immoral” I can still make a decision that can cause other Christians to stumble. Modesty being a prime example."
https://deepstrength.wordpress.com/2015/02/15/50-...
I suppose the irony is that when Jesus said deny yourself take up your cross and follow me... the "deny yourself" (of attention, emotionally thrills, of whatever) is important to think about in context of being a Christian.
Anon · 528 weeks ago
I remember the change when I went skirts/dresses only. I received less and different attention. Men were mostly polite/reserved about their interests when I wore pants, so I didn't make the connection right away.
In skirts/dresses world, I receive genuine gentlemanly responses. I also endure some awful pressure from some men who answer the challenge skirts/dresses present to them with aggression. That part isn't very fun. :(
Desiree · 528 weeks ago
My sister tends to dress to reveal her figure, my 13 year old neice is still very modest, or as modest as you can be when your mom finds you tight jeans to wear. I am giving her a copy of Growing Up Duggar...something I would highly recommend to anyone who has a teen girl in their lives! Maybe my sister will read it also.
I loved the other argument for modest dressing! Now when the subject comes up, which it does from time to time, I will have a little more ammunition.
Rob · 528 weeks ago
As for my wife i do like when she wears tights or yoga pants, but that's for me in private. If she does wear them in public, she is very well covered.
I am always wondering why woman like to be so exposed in public. See through tights, very tights clothing etc. i know obviously they must like the attention of others, but there is a time and place. My wife and I like to make sure we stay attractive to each other, but honestly to me its repulsive when i see teenage girls and woman dressing ridiculously.
Make yourselves attractive to your spouse, not everyone else!!!
I know i am broken record, BUT WE NEED TO PROTECT OUR EYES AT ALL COSTS!!!
Rob · 528 weeks ago
Rob · 528 weeks ago
She has 3 kids with 3 different men.
I want to say something in a very very discreet way, but even the Pastor doesnt say anything. Its just accepted. Would you or Ken advise me to speak, given the right moment and circumstance of course? To me it is offensive because my kids see that and i am sure wonder why its ok.
Although i have had this conversation with them even though they are only 8 and 5
Cori · 528 weeks ago
thejoyfilledwife · 528 weeks ago
I will say that there was something said that caused me to take pause. I asked my husband's thoughts (without influencing them beforehand) and he brought up the same concern that I have. I know that we often reiterate that we are to respect and obey our husbands, with the only exception being when he asks us to sin. It is clear in Scripture that modesty is crucial in the life of a Believer. Not just for our own hearts (although that is crucial as well), but so we are not causing our brothers and sisters to stumble. Scripture even goes as far as to say that if something such as a certain type of food is a temptation to someone you are around, you should refrain from consuming it in their presence. Why? So we don't provoke them and tempt them. God takes provoking very seriously in the Word. That's not something to take lightly.
If a husband asks his wife to go out in public in immodest clothing that will undoubtedly provoke others to sin or to struggle, she must very respectfully explain to her husband that, although she loves him and desires to respect the things he tells her to do, she doesn't want to dishonor the Lord and be disobedient to the Word. If her husband continues to press her on it, I would encourage the wife to pray for her husband's heart in this matter, as it is likely that he has ulterior motives for trying to cause her to deny her Biblical command on this subject. Nonetheless, she must obey God on this subject. We cannot allow our bodies to be used as a tool of sin, even by our husbands. What a wife CAN do is ask for her husband's preferences within the context of modest attire. Ask him to share his favorite colors, patterns, materials, etc. and compensate by dressing modestly within the preferences he described. That way he won't feel that you are shutting him out of all the decision-making and that you do care about his desires.
canecaldo 9p · 528 weeks ago
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Ken · 527 weeks ago
It may come as a surprise to some, but Lori and I do not see 100% "eye to eye" on all matters she or I write about, nor will we agree 100% with guest posters on the blog. We both believe in the freedom that our new life in Christ gives to all who believe.
Certainly there are essential issues of the faith that all of us as believers need to focus upon and hold firmly to without wavering,and on thees things Lori and I see completely eye to eye. But on the non-essentials, we need to hold tightly to what is clearly stated in the Bible, develop strong personal convictions, yet allow those who see differently the freedom in the faith to live their lives before the Lord as they feel they are called to with grace.
Strong Christians can even go one side to another over the years with strong convictions on some peripheral, but important issues, like this one on modesty. It's a great discussion for us to have as few are willing to tackle this Christian precept in a world that is becoming more and more immodest. Let's allow those with firm convictions to hold them before the Lord, and let's challenge those with looser convictions to tighten them up, as this post does so clearly. But beyond that let each couple decide what will be best for their walk with the Lord and advancing His kingdom.
As our pastor said so well today, there is so much to do that is plain and clear in the scriptures that we must take caution not to add any more than what God's Word demands. God's Word says to women, "Be modest," and what that means will be different to many. I like Lori to wear dresses at or just above her knees, yet some will call that immodest. I hate leggings unless a dress is also being worn to at least mid thigh. I am embarrassed for most women who wear them, or yoga pants, not just for their immodesty, but most women look awful in them.
I see the discussion above about a potential of a husband asking a wife to dress immodestly, and yet I can't imagine any husband telling a wife to wear a particular type of clothing, He might say, "Please dress more modern and not so old fashioned," but to take away her ability to dress modestly, that has to be a rare thing. My guess is most wives in this situation can request a compromise and it be granted. Even if asked to wear a bikini, a wife has options for a healthy compromise if she looks for it, before saying "no" to her husband's request.
Psalm1Wife 22p · 527 weeks ago
Although we have not had the honor of becoming acquainted, Lori has told me that she believes that the two of us could develop a strong friendship if we were to start conversing. I would very much enjoy and appreciate that if it were to happen. On to your comment:
"That way he won't feel that you are shutting him out of all the decision-making and that you do care about his desires."
A husband is the authority and he may withdraw from decision making in response to a rebellious wife (which I know you are not) but he is the authority because God mandated it this way. When we say things like 'shutting him out of all the decision-making', it seems that we are handing over the reigns to our husbands. Either willfully or not, it is impossible to hand over the reigns when we do not hold the reins. The husband is the authority, whether he knows it, shows it or not.
Because of this, I do not agree that a wife has been granted permission from God to choose against her husband on issues that her husband would ask contrary to her beliefs. Moreover, I believe that bringing this *extremely rare* exception (a husband asking a wife to dress immodestly) to light is fueling an already burning fire in a woman's heart to indulge a disobedient spirit. I chose to bring that point up in my post in passing, only because I know how quickly women can become moved to extremes like, gathering their wardrobe, burning it and switching to 'skirts only' all while their husband is still at work.
My recollection of the overall plot of the Bible shows women under the authority of EXTREMELY sinful men and there are indications that the women felt all of the effects of their husband's sinful choices and were not standing up against his sins in an attempt to not sin themselves. A husband will be accountable for asking his wife to sin. I am convinced that the Bible clearly shows by example, women obeying their husbands unto sin, the most obvious and spoken example being Sarah. I stand by my position that a woman should wear what her husband asks, even in public.
Now, I have and will always advise women who are witnessing their husband sin in a way that is blatantly illegal or physically harmful to contact a larger authority i.e. church, police, etc. and seek protection, if necessary, but Sarah did not bow to the king and apologize for the request of her less wise husband, she willfully obeyed, as I am honored to do as well.
Exceptions do exist but I will never dwell of exceptions and I believe that by bringing them up, we are inhibiting others from learning to crawl, in an attempt to teach them to walk much too soon. I would rather be well versed in the over alls of the Bible then being well versed in all of the exceptions to rules and by doing this, I know it is possible to strain out a gnat and avoid swallowing a camel in the process.
God bless you and your family.
Psalm1Wife
Psalm1Wife 22p · 527 weeks ago
I am ever thankful for the opportunity to write here and I am very humbled by the fact that you would allow me to write even if I do not write exactly what you or Lori would write.
I hope that we are unified in our attempts to teach younger (or in my case, those who more green to the biblical wife's role) women, and I am very thankful that you and Lori are willing to offer up your comment section to believers who may differ on how playing these things out might look in real life.
Personally, my husband has strongly exhorted me to dress modestly and shows much concern when I might be wearing something transparent or too low cut. He has, however asked me to wear swim wear that is clearly immodest and I have and will obey him.
This is a debatable topic and I certainly do not expect that every husband or wife everywhere will agree and that is why I am so very humbled that you will approve my articles even when you or Lori may not agree.
God bless you, Psalm1Wife
ContentWife · 527 weeks ago
About submission... (and this part is for those of us who ALREADY submit to our husbands) I believe there is a difference between obeying your husband when it comes to personal convictions (is this dress too short?), and obeying your husband when it comes to something clearly wrong (should I steal like he asked me to?). If the husband has a personal conviction that is different than his wife's, she should obey him and trust him as the leader of the home. If however he asks her to do something blatantly wrong (stealing, lying, etc.) she "ought to obey God rather than men" (Acts 5:29) in the same way that the apostles tackled the problem of government/authority conflicting with God's clear - note: CLEAR - command. And with all respect and humbleness towards her husband, of course. This should not be an issue in most Christian marriages however.
When God praises Sarah and says, "Even as Sarah obeyed Abraham, calling him lord..." (1 Pet. 3:6), is He referring to the situation where Abraham asked Sarah to lie? I don't believe so. I believe He is referring to her attitude and life as a whole. Same with Rahab (Heb. 11:31; Jam. 2:25). Is God praising her for lying about the spies? I don't think so.
(Now again, I'm NOT adding another excuse for those who don't submit to their husbands. This is the exception for those of us who already DO submit.) This should not be a problem at all in most Christian marriages, but I believe there are situations where a wife needs to obey God first.
Just some thoughts. :-)
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Laura · 474 weeks ago
" "If your husband wants you to wear tight jeans in public, obey him...." "
I understand that in Biblical based marriages the husband is the head, but I also know we answer to God before anyone. We should ask and answer to God first before anyone, man or woman, husband or wife. Also if the marriage is Christian I would hope the husband would want his wife to dress modestly and not ask his wife to dress immodest in public like that; after all isn't that what most godly marriages want? To be modest and respectful.