Tuesday, October 4, 2011

Is Drinking Alcohol Sin?


Several women commented on my Margarita Party post wondering how I could drink alcohol when it is forbidden in Scripture.  I responded to their comments, but it is a complicated issue so I let my husband respond to it ~

The issue of drinking alcohol is not a “yes” or “no” issue for the student of the scriptures. Many believe that the Bible clearly teaches complete abstinence and yet no place is this clearly found in the scriptures. 

What is repeated frequently in the scriptures is the admonition not to get drunk or be drunk with wine or strong drink.  Such an admonition given in various parts of the scriptures becomes proof that to drink and not be drunk, is acceptable to the believer.

Take for instance the passage in Leviticus 10:9 that forbids the priests from drinking wine or strong drink “when you go into the tent of meeting, lest you die.”  If the priests were not drinking wine or strong drink at other times in their lives, God would not have forbidden imbibing at this particular time, “when you go into the tent of meeting.”  Would He not have simply said, “Do not drink wine or strong drink”?

This same proof that drinking of alcohol was a part of the practice of believers and not forbidden appears in many places within the scriptures.  The plain speaking Apostle Paul had every opportunity to clearly set the record straight for drinking alcohol by simply saying, “Do not drink,” but instead he says ~  

Elders are not to be  "given to drunkenness” I Tim. 3:3;
Deacons are not to be “given to much wine” I Tim. 3:8;

Older women are to be taught “not to be addicted to much wine” Titus 2:3. 

This makes it pretty obvious that unless the early church leaders took all of Paul’s words to the extreme,  drinking was permissible, but excess was greatly discouraged or forbidden.

Some may point to Paul’s admonition in Romans 14:21 as the reason Christians may not drink: “It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother to fall.”

I like Martin Luther’s response when he says, Do not suppose that abuses are eliminated by destroying the object which is abused. Men can go wrong with wine and women. Shall we then prohibit and abolish women?”  I do not know many Christians who believe God has forbidden the eating of meat, nor banning of all sex because sex is abused.

No, instead we have taught our children to “let your moderation be known to all men” Philippians 4:5. A glass of wine, perhaps two over a couple hours of time, is not forbidden in the scriptures and is part of Christian liberty. 

With liberty comes responsibility and each believer must seek the Lord’s wisdom through the Spirit to determine how he or she may exercise such liberty or perhaps find it best to not drink.  Just because the Christian may drink wine does not make it profitable, and those with children need to be very careful that their children grow up to discern wisdom in this very important area of Christian morality.

Our family used wine sparingly and many times when wine was served we would take the opportunity to teach our kids the many facets of this important issue to our culture.  We were not afraid to tell our kids that the Bible does not forbid drinking wine, but it does forbid drunkenness.

We taught them alcohol is severely abused in our society which may be a reason in itself not to drink wine as an example to others. But most of all, we taught them that there are many areas of liberty in the scriptures which do not require a black or white, yes or no, but rather require a personal conversation with Jesus to decide when it may or may not be appropriate to drink a glass of wine.

Our conclusion, from a very careful study of the scriptures, which included a thirty page exegetical study of all of the passages of scripture that refer to the subject of the Christian’s Response to Alcohol I had to do for my conservative Christian graduate school, was that there is very little profit in drinking alcohol, but it is not forbidden to the Christian. 

A glass of wine with a meal makes the meal taste better and the conversation flow without any harm or detriment.  A glass of wine on the dance floor with my wife can be good for our romance.  (Oh no….  now do we have to deal with the issue of the Christian’s response to dance? :) 

Moderation in all things and do not make God out to be a hard schoolmaster who does not know how to have fun.  Jesus was accused of being a drunkard, because he came “eating and drinking.”

I will bet you Jesus knew exactly how to have fun without abusing food or drink, and that we who follow Him can do the same in a way that the world can say, “Those Christians know how to do it right and live an attractive life filled with truth, joy and freedom.”
               
So whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God.” 1 Cor. 10:31.

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Sara (chicago) · 703 weeks ago

Lori, it makes me so happy to see that you can run to your husband with this kinda stuff. I want to end up with a guy like that! Sometimes I get upset when I see how people respond to your posts, but you always answer in a fair and biblical way. Love you!!
"Do not judge, and you will not be judged" Luke 6:37
1 reply · active 703 weeks ago
Agreed, moderation.

See also John 2: 1-12 Jesus' first miracle- turning water into wine at the wedding feast at Cana. "On the third day there was a wedding in Cana of Galilee, and the mother of Jesus was there; and both Jesus and His disciples were invited to the wedding. When the wine ran out, the mother of Jesus said to Him, “They have no wine. . . Jesus said to them, “Fill the waterpots with water.” So they filled them up to the brim. And He said to them, “Draw some out now and take it to the headwaiter.” So they took it to him. When the headwaiter tasted the water which had become wine . .:
I like the way you handled the comments! I really believe it boils down to a persons convictions. I do not feel that drinking is a sin...drinking in excess; yes. However if I am around someone who thinks it is a sin I will show deference to them and not drink. Different people have different tugs on their heart from the Holy Spirit. Something I may feel convicted about may not bother you at all, and that is ok and shows just how different our blessed Savior made us :)
Very timely. My older brother and I have been talking about this subject over the last couple of days, and have come to the same conclusion as you. There are some people at his church that disagree on this subject, some holding that it's not a sin, but that no good can ever come of it, others, that it is a sin. Do you think that you could post your thirty page study on this? We'd love to read it!
Paul L.
P.S. Could you do a post on christian dancing, and maybe what kind of dancing?
1 reply · active 703 weeks ago
Very well written Lori - your husband has clearly done his study!! As have you.
I am sorry to hear you were judged as you were. I have often had "discussions" with other Christians on this very subject. There are those who believe it is sin, but their argument constantly falls down when scripture is sighted. The bible is very clear on not becoming drunk but it does not forbid drinking.
It is a personal decision, I believe, and no one has the right to judge another.
Well said and thank you!! After a lot of study, my husband and I came to the same conclusion about a lot of things. They key is self-control. Each of us needs to ask, "What are the boundries God set for me personally?" If it's abstinence because of a lack of self control in an area of our lives, then it's abstinence. It the case of alcohol, we jokingly say, "Don't do a Noah." However, the underlying meaning is, "Don't cross that line where you are no longer in complete control of your mind and body." Thanks again for the great post. I hope you don't mind my sharing it on Facebook today and on my blog next week.
1 reply · active 703 weeks ago
I believe it is easy to take scripture out of context to justify our actions however the bottom line is always the same, is what we are doing pure, right, honorable and righteous towards God? Will it hinder our walk with Him or cause others to stumble? When we can sit down and look at the bigger picture of what we are doing in our walk that can hinder or cause a stumble, that is what is important. I Thessalonians 5:22 tells us to "Abstain from all appearance of evil." I believe that the enemy has bored his lies that drinking can be done responsible and if done in that way can cause no harm. If that were the case then Phil 4:8 has alot of explaining to do. Though this is a personal conviction that we all have to seek personally with God, however we want to dig deeper into how God wants us to live around others so that we dont cause them to stumble or make paths that will hinder our walk with God without compromise. Blessings to you
2 replies · active 703 weeks ago
I would like to respectfully agree with Sonya. She said very eloquently what I believe too. There is a saying that what the parents do in moderation, the children will do in excess. I'm thankful that this has not happened in your family, but sadly it has in many.

We go so far as to not even go to restaruants that have bars. As an ambassador of Christ, I want to give no cause for stumbling or have any one have a question mark in theri minds as to what I believe and who I follow. To me, drinking is what the world engages in, so I stay as far away from that activity as possible.

I do thank you for so many wonderful blog posts that have been very helpful and a blessing to me. And you have a very kind and sweet spirit. I agree with your thoughts on discipline of children and how we should love and reverence our husbands. But on the issue of drinking I have to say that I respectfully disagree.

Blessings,
Caroline
1 reply · active 703 weeks ago
Sonya- did Jesus, then, fail from abstaining from the appearance of evil when he drank wine?

This post is right on.
2 replies · active 703 weeks ago
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Christine · 703 weeks ago

Throwing in my support of your post.
Wonderful post! I completely agree! Thank you!!! I was raised in a home where alcohol was forbidden and my husband grew up in a home where it was a part of his family's social life...a cultural thing. Together we can see where training our children exactly the way you did your children on this matter is what God has called us to to. I have spent many years praying over this until the Lord finally set me free. Sometimes I believe the strict view that drinking is a sin can cause more harm, and cause greater abuse to a child who does choose to drink later in life. Educating our children to use wisdom and self control is a great gift....and that not everything is a sin is too.
1 reply · active 703 weeks ago
You raised some interesting points. May I add to the discussion by giving this quote from John MacArthur? This is how I have come to fall on the issue of alcohol.

“ A wine cooler is an alcoholic beverage. It is my own personal conviction that I do not drink alcoholic beverages of any kind any time and there are several reasons why.

Reason, and they're not in a particularly spiritual order, but reason number one is the fact that I believe the Bible warns very, very strongly about drunkenness and very, very strongly about losing control in dissipation, Ephesians 5:18, "Be not drunk with wine in which is dissipation but be filled with the Spirit." If I'm going to be under the control of something I want it to be the Holy Spirit, not some substance….
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(Continued) …..Beyond that I am convinced after studying the Word of God and studying the backgrounds around the Word of God that that wine which was imbibed in the time of the New Testament, and even in the Old Testament, was highly diluted with water, five to one, six to one, seven to one, eight to one. And wine...and they really drank water if you want to see the true picture and they simply purified the water by putting a little bit of fermented wine in it because it...it killed whatever else would be in the wine that might cause them some physical problems. But it was not the normal drink of the time of our Lord for people to drink unmixed wine. You read in the Bible about two kinds of drink, wine and strong drink. Strong drink was unmixed and those who drank strong drink drank it for the purpose of drowning their problems. The wine that was consumed in the Bible was very definitely mixed with water extensively. Because you lived in a warm climate, the land of Palestine was hot, the very fact of thirst could contribute to a high consumption of wine. In order to prevent drunkenness they mixed it with water so that your body could not hold the amount that it would take to inebriate you.
(Sorry the quote is so long)…. “So, that simply to point out to you that I don't think you can advocate wine drinking from the Bible unless you have diluted it sufficiently with water as they did in biblical times.”

Please don’t take this comment as attacking in anyway. I merely wish to share my view point and MacArthur words it much better than I could.
2 replies · active 703 weeks ago
Christians need to stop being concerned with what they "shouldn't do" and focus and what they should be doing. I remember once a leader came to me to tell me he thought my tshirt was a little tight. And I looked at him and answered: "My two grandmothers are in the hospital. My father is almost broke. Me and my sister have been sad with all this situations, and you, my leader, haven't approached me in weeks to ask how my life is, but you are sure to quicken your step to tell me my shirt is too tight?" When focusing on the "dont's" we lose sight of the do's. Don't drink alcohol, the legalist demands. Where is he excersicing love thy neighbor? I we only followed Jesus more closely!
1 reply · active 703 weeks ago
Very well said. Thanks you!
Excellent post!
I'm new to your blog, but found a link...and have enjoyed reading this article and all of the comments. A couple things...to "Abstain from the appearance of evil..." has been taken out of context many times. What is it that we are to abstain from? What appearance? Evil. What is evil? What does the word mean? Evil, is doing physical harm to someone else. Having a glass of wine at a restaurant with my husband, is not causing physical harm to anyone. The appearance of "EVIL"...is doing something that would "appear" that you are hurting someone, or causing them harm. It just doesn't apply in so many ways that we have been taught it applies. I have found...just because someone teaches a verse in a certain way...that doesn't make it true. I've heard most of my life that "wine" in the Bible is referring to juice. Someone else brought up the diluted wine. All of the juice in that part of the world, would begin the fermentation process very quickly, because of the heat. There were no refrigerators then. I like what you wrote in the post, about prohibiting alcohol and women...you cannot decide to take one part of a verse to the extreme (alcohol ) and not the other part (women). Ultimately, we are given freedom in Christ. We all agree, it is against scripture to allow your mind or body to be overtaken by alcohol. The question then, is how much or how little is ok, without being overtaken by it? There is no set amount mentioned in scripture, so anything that anyone says, is a personal decision.
2 replies · active 703 weeks ago
We don't drink on our home, but I agree with much of your article.
I found the link to this post of WFMW over at We Are That Family and when I saw the link I held my breath and thought 'oh boy...here we go". The timing on it is very interesting in that I was just talking to one of our pastors about this yesterday morning. This topic along with other "questionable Christian acts" (ie: drinking, tongues, hair cutting, tattoos, smoking, etc) are soo focused on sometimes that I think people forget what is REALLY important.

I grew up in a church that my father pastored, but that church was not the church for me. After I got married, my husband and I started going to a different church. That church happened to believe that the gift of tongues was still alive and relevant...my father's church believes that the gift of tongues is dead. One day, my father approached me and said how he just couldn't believe I would go to a church "like that". I asked my dad what the most important part of Christianity is. "Jesus dying and paying our sin debt. Us asking for forgiveness and becoming new and viewable to God". Then I asked my father if the gift of tongues was anywhere in those two sentences. ...and the crickets chirped...because when it comes down to it, our beliefs on those questionable things are not what gets us to heaven. It's Jesus' precious blood that made the way to Heaven for us...covered our dirtiness and allows God to look at us. Whether or not someone drinks alcohol is going to be a personal conviction and like other personal convictions, what may be 'right' for me might not be what is 'right' for you. We do not have the right to judge each other on those things...it isn't our job to do that. It's our job to love each other despite our differences.

Wonderful post and beautifully written. I really enjoyed the read. Thank you.
1 reply · active 703 weeks ago
Very well said! I was recently "taken to task" over my "Hot Today" post in which I used alcohol medicinaly. It's good to see other clear thinking believers. :-)
1 reply · active 703 weeks ago
I agree with your post. However I do not drink anymore out of respect for my husband who has a strong disdain for alcohol. For me, to drink, would be a sin because I would be out from under a position of submission to my husband. I think it really is up to each individual to include this in the process of "working out their own salvation".
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I just want to point out that, based on some web definitions of the word "drunk"...

1. being in a temporary state in which one's physical and mental faculties are impaired by an excess of alcoholic drink
2. overcome or dominated by a strong feeling or emotion
4. Caused or influenced by intoxication
5. Michael Pearl's (Debi Pearl's husband) definition "“So when one drinks any alcoholic beverage for the purpose of altering his state of consciousness-that is to relax, to get happy, or to party-then he is drunk.”

...it would seem that you and your husband are saying two separate things.

First, that it is wrong to drink to the point of getting drunk and, therefore, you both do not get drunk.

Second, by this statement your husband makes, "A glass of wine with a meal makes the meal taste better and the conversation flow without any harm or detriment. A glass of wine on the dance floor with my wife can be good for our romance" it sounds like he is using alcohol to alter his mind and physical behavior and thus get "drunk", even if it is "moderately" drunk.

~Angela
1 reply · active 702 weeks ago
Well written Angela and I agree with most of what you write. The first four definitions of being drunk we can agree upon. Michael Pearl is one of my favorites of all time, but I wonder if he were pressed on the subject that he might retract the concept of drinking a glass of wine to relax as forbidden by the scriptures. Michael makes it clear that Jesus and his disciples drank wine and families of that day drank wine that was perhaps only 1.5% alcohol. Yet, we know that the scriptures are replete with commands “not to drink to excess” and not to be “given to much wine,” so the wine was fully capable of making one drunk. The idea that wine was ONLY acceptable to drink for medicinal purposes as Timothy was commanded is simply too far from the truth of the scriptures.

Michael Pearl says, “Does the Bible prohibit the drinking of wine? Absolutely not.” Somewhere between “yes” and “no” is the answer on drinking wine for the Christian and it will take a thoughtful and studious believer to determine how dark the gray is for them and their family. For ours, black it is found in your first four definitions of drunkenness, but the idea that one cannot relax or be “happy” with a glass of wine is adding to what the scriptures teach. It is something that Michael Pearl has given as part of his own perspective. To equate drunkenness to relaxing with a glass of wine is to then say that coffee is a drug for those who drink a cup each morning or chamomile tea a drug to relax in the evenings, to “alter their state of being.” It is clear for this student of the scriptures that the drinking of wine is not forbidden in the scriptures and yet drunkenness is forbidden. My state of being may be modestly affected by a glass or two of wine, but my state of consciousness is not altered.

Let us use our liberty to choose to drink a glass of wine, or to choose to not drink, and may each one of us be sensitive to how the Spirit desires for us to act and think. No doubt, too many Christians are crossing the line and that becomes the primary argument for abstaining altogether. But let’s not force black into this gray area of the scriptures. There are plenty of do’s and don’ts already without making more don’ts when God clear teaches that we are “not to drink to excess.” There are 30-40 places in the scriptures God could have simply said, “no, no, never never,” but he has chosen to leave this important issue of drinking wine up to our Spirit led conscience.
I have posted this twice, from Pastor David L. Brown and his web page called "Seven Good Reasons Christians Should Not Drink" yet it is not showing up. Let's see if it works this time...

"Drinking, even social drinking, cannot be legitimately supported by the Bible. Every drink that is available today, even beer, falls into the category of unmixed or strong drink. Clearly, Christians should not drink alcoholic beverages. Drinking socially is a worldly activity and in light of the fact that believers are neither to be conformed to the world (Romans 12:2) nor love the world(I John 2:15) our choice should be clear. We ARE to be SEPARATE FROM the world (II Corinthians 6:17) and LIGHT TO the world (Ephesians 5:8; Phillipians 2:15). Perhaps social drinking has enhanced the acceptability of Christians in society, but it has not advanced the cause of Christ, and it does not glorify God! Social drinking is simply a means which the devil uses to blunt our testimony for Christ and squeeze us into his mold."

~Angela

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