Monday, April 25, 2016

To Obey or Not to Obey? ~ Chapter Twenty Three


Whenever I am the teaching about wives submitting to their husbands, someone will usually bring up situations when a wife shouldn't obey. Debi and Michael wrote an entire chapter dealing with this topic, probably since it is asked so often. I doubt most men will ask their wives to do something evil, but there are some gray areas so hopefully this chapter will clear things up. They also believe that a wife should not submit only when a husband asks his wife to do something evil. However, many wives easily "get into the habit of always doubting his judgments and of second guessing him. They let him 'lead' when they think he is right, effectively reversing the male/female roles. When is it appropriate for a wife to refuse to obey her husband? Is there a point at which she is no longer under his authority? Yes, but not as soon or as often as most women suppose."*

Women are commanded to be subject to their husbands in everything, so make sure you are obeying your husband in everything. God has commanded you to do this. However, if he asks you to watch porn with him or commit a crime, you need to refuse since these are evil. Pearl also adds that anal sex is unnatural and a wife doesn't have to obey her husband in this area either, which I agree with.

"Wives are to obey unreasonable and surly husbands, for they retain the headship until they cross the bright red line of criminal acts or imposing behavior on the family, bringing God or government to intervene."* Just as we are taught in 1 Peter 2 about how much Christ suffered for us, the apostle Peter makes it clear in 1 Peter 3:1 that wives may also suffer under disobedient husbands. I have mentored women with disobedient husbands and it is very difficult. It causes a lot of suffering. Most in our culture scream "divorce him" but this is not God's way. "Jesus did not live his life in ease for his own pleasure. He lived and suffered for the glory that was to follow. You were created to give glory to God. When God puts you in subjection to a man whom he knows is going to cause you to suffer, it is with the understanding that you are obeying God by enduring the wrongful suffering."*

We have a woman in the chat room who is truly suffering under a disobedient husband. All of us stand in awe of her strength and determination to fight for her marriage and her husband's soul. She is witnessing to many in the chat room of what it looks like to be married to a disobedient husband, how difficult it is, and how God receives so much glory from it as she stands strong in the Lord and in His mighty power flowing through her. She is continually heaping burning coals of love upon his head while he stands in amazement of her faithfulness to him. She counts her blessings along the way and lives knowing that God has it all under control as she lives in obedience to Him while praying for her husband's soul. 

The Pearls talk about a few instances where a wife should not obey her husband as in wanting a son to participate in homosexual acts {call the authorities}, cross dressing {refuse and pray for his soul}, steal things {call authorities}, false tax returns {be careful not to be your husband's conscience in this area if it is over not reporting "a little cash money"}, and finally, if an unbelieving husband doesn't want his wife to go to church. In this case, Debi tells her to stay home and minister to her husband. Many women think this is a terrible idea but a woman in the chat room has been doing this, even though she wanted to go to church badly. She just recently told us that her husband wants to go back to church! We all love hearing of women winning their disobedient husbands back to them and to the Lord by being in submission to their husbands with godly behavior. However, if you are living with a man that is physically abusing you, call the authorities. I have an entire post on women being abusive relationships.

If you're not sure about whether to obey or not, ask an older, godly woman for her advice but usually it's fairly easy to distinguish what is truly evil and what is not. Let the word "evil" make the decision for you. Don't try to take the leadership role away from your husband even if he is a disobedient husband. The Lord may use your subjection to him to win him. The Lord works in very mysterious and wonderful ways!

Likewise, ye wives, be in subjection to your own husbands;
 that, if any obey not the word, they also may without the word 
be won by the conversation of the wives.
1 Peter 3:1

*Quotes from the book.

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Hi Lori, I have a new post in "The Best Gift You Can Give Your Husband," on a husband's ability to safely trust in his wife, I think it definitely goes with obeying him faithfully (obedience is part of having is trust!!!), and even if he is a difficult man, to eventually win him over because of her loyalty and obedience to him! I just started watching video interviews with Debi Pearl and am loving her advice and wisdom... I never would have found her if I hadn't been reading your blog!

Here is the post, but let me know if posting constant links is kind of spammy! I won't mind at all if you'd rather I not post the links here! https://girlwithadragonflytattoo.com/2016/04/25/h...
1 reply · active 465 weeks ago
Yes, Debi has a lot of wisdom and her wisdom sure changed my life for the better! It's fine if you give links to biblical teaching. I will read it later. Thank you!
Can i just say that this whole idea can flow into other areas of life? My sister in law wasnt happy in her job with a difficult boss. (She is single) and rather than tough it out and pray for and show the love of Christ to her (female) boss she left her job expecting to just walk into another one and has now been out of work for a long time. If she had just stuck it out she may have won her unreasonable boss to Christ. Now that opportunity is missed.
2 replies · active 465 weeks ago
Yes, the Word tells us to heap burning coals upon our enemy's head in Romans 12:20 meaning we cause them to be convicted by treated their meanness with kindness. Love and kindness can melt the hardest heart so faith can grow!
Sometimes ' sticking it out' can be gruelling. And seem unfair. But so worth it in the end.
I think by now, you must recognize my username :) i think today people are too easy to throw things away that could possibly be good because it's "boring and doesn't bring excitement" anymore. marriage is not going to always be exciting. it is getting through those long days and sometimes hard times that makes it worth it. a spouse should not only be there to only provide good times. i know in my situation though (working sometimes 60 hours a week, only to come home and do all of the cooking and cleaning for an abusive spouse, was not only unsafe, but completely thankless. i wasn't expecting gratitude, but i expected to be treated better than a servant i suppose!- but that is neither here nor there...)

I did have a question though, reading through some old posts- when you ladies are talking about complete submission, are you really saying in all aspects of life? i do have a boyfriend and although we do not live together- i would say that he does more or less lead my life. he makes all the major decisions, including where we go on vacation and organizing the trip; pays for most things when we go out (he usually buys dinner and i buy us ice cream!). he also has arranged my financial situation so that my bills are getting paid off quickly and in a timely fashion. this is a great help- because when i was married i literally had to everything (everything.. including pay and run the household bills, etc). but at the same time, he values my opinion and regularly asks for it. i've seen some comments about complete submission- but does this mean that if your husband says to cut your hair, you cut it? or do this and we jump? sorry, i'm sort of new to all of this...

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