Saturday, December 27, 2014

Are You Okay with Your Children Having the Sin Disease?


Voddie Baucham says it like it is and he isn't afraid of not being politically correct. I love preachers like him who don't make me comfortable but exhort, rebuke and challenge me to grow in the wisdom and the knowledge of the Lord. He preached a sermon on the Centrality of the Family and I'm going to discuss some of the points he made. EVERYONE should listen to this HERE! I am going to summarize parts of this sermon and this one concerning the family.

We are losing a generation and we are losing that generation rapidly. For instance, depending on where you look, we are losing somewhere between 75 and 88% of our young people by the end of their freshman year in college {They are leaving their faith.}...In our culture, in America for the first time, our birth rate is below replacement rate. Replacement rate is 2.1 children per family. We are at 1.9. Now, in case you don't understand what that means, what that means is we are not having enough children for our culture to continue to survive. Our culture is dying one generation at a time. {In regards to numbers and faith.}

Why? Because they want prosperity more than they want children. And it is the same for us. We despise children in our culture...You don't believe me? Find a woman with six or seven kids and follow her into a church and watch the way we mock her. Watch the way people who don't even know her come up to her and say, "Haven't you guys figured out how that happens yet?

Now, let me make it plain and bring it home. Christianity in America is dying one generation at a time, one home at a time...It starts with us. And it all goes back to prosperity. The poorest nations in the world see children as a blessing. The richest nation in the world, we talk about children in terms of how many we can afford. God help us. We are dying one generation at a time because we refuse to receive the gift that God wants to bring through the womb. Stop buying the lies of society! Marriage is WAY more important than education. We need kingdom marriages who are raising an army for the Lord. 

We need to discipline our children in the Lord. If I tell my child to do something and they don't do it, they've disobeyed. I was training my children to sin. When they don't do something when I say it by saying it more than once, counting, yelling, or they obey with a bad attitude, I am training my children to sin. NO sin is acceptable. {You are either training your child to be obedient or disobedient.}

Read Proverbs. Spank their behind. "Yeah, well I just don't believe in spanking." Then you don't believe the Bible. The Bible teaches it. Dr. Jesus does. "Folly and rebellion are bound in the heart of a child and time out will drive it out from him." No! "...the rod of correction will drive it out from him." This is the ONLY instrument God gives us to drive out the folly and rebellion of children.

If your baby gets bit by a snake, you take it to the ER. The doctor has a long needle of anti-venom. "No, that will hurt my baby!' "Ma'am, if I don't stick this needle into your baby, your baby will die." The Bible says our children have a disease and there's one anti-venom. If you don't give them the anti-venom, then you're saying you're okay with the disease.

John MacArthur's teaching on the rod in his study bible, "Early childhood teaching requires both parental discipline, including corporal punishment and balanced kindness and love. There is great hope that the use of the 'divine ordinance' of the rod will produce godly virtue and parental joy. Such discipline must have the right motivation {Hebrews 12:5-11} and appropriate severity {Ephesians 6:4}. One who has genuine affection for his child, but withholds corporal punishment, will produce the same kind of child as a parent who hates his offspring."

He that spares his rod hates his son: 
but he that loves him chastens him.
Proverbs 13:24

Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child;
 but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him
Proverbs 23:13

Withhold not correction from the child: 
for if thou beatest him with the rod, he shall not die. 
Proverbs 23:14

Thou shalt beat him with the rod, 
and shalt deliver his soul from hell. 
Proverbs 29:15

The rod and reproof give wisdom: 
but a child left to himself brings his mother to shame. 
Proverbs 29:15

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Good post Lori. I liked the part about how poor countries view children as a blessing, isn't that the truth! The most humble people always see God's hand.
As for spanking, I definitely believe there is a time and a place for it. However, I have noticed that when used too frequently and for every little thing, it loses effectiveness. I think it works best when there is an immediate need for a change of behavior. And I also think it only works if there is a strong relationship of love and kindness behind it. I think a lot of parents lack the self control and calmness to use spanking effectively. I always think of Michele Duggar - chances are she has used spanking, but she's definitely not one to fly into a rage and spank for every little misdeed. Anyway - just my thoughts. :) I have needed to spank my children on occasion but definitely not often.
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Agreed, Tiffany! I think spanking should only be used for open defiance and rebellion. These are the things parents must be very diligent in getting rid of in their children.
Very good post Lori!
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Lady Virtue · 535 weeks ago

From the blog post: "Stop buying the lies of society! Marriage is WAY more important than education. We need kingdom marriages who are raising an army for the Lord."

I'm off to listen to this sermon right now; it's worth hearing for the above statement alone!

By the way, Lori, I notice your intro now says you've been married 34 years. Looks like you and Ken just had another anniversary. Congratulations! :-)
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Today is our anniversary!! I can't believe you noticed! Thank you.
Great post Lori, and Happy Anniversary, I also noticed the change to your profile.
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Thank you, Patrick!
This is a great sermon. I can't think of a single sermon I've heard that I haven't felt challenged by. I think I just heard last week that the birth rate has dropped even lower to 1.8, since this is a few years old. (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/05/us/us-sees-decline-in-births-for-sixth-year.html?_r=0). If you want just audio, here is a link to the same sermon given in 2006 (or nearly the same, as it's a few minutes shorter, but the gist is the same). http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=520...

Happy Anniverisary Ken & Lori
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Thank you, Amanda! Yes, he's definitely my type of pastor; not afraid to speak Truth boldly and unashamedly. I'll listen to the link you gave. I do want to listen to more of his sermons.
The birth rate data is actually worse that it looks at first. This is because the immigrants to this country have a higher birth-rate than those born here. Without the mass immigration we have right now (especially illegal), our official birth-rate would be even lower.
That's really sad, especially since a lot of it comes from the Christian community that doesn't trust in God's provision.
He has about ~150 on sermonaudio.com. He says he doesn't like putting them up, but his church elders have requested it, so he abides by their authority.
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That should keep me busy!
Happy Anniversary, Lori and Ken! Thank you for helping my marraige become stronger than ever!
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This is good to hear, Katie!
One of the things that I've always found interesting about Proverbs was the many instructions to discipline children. Unlike a few out there, I don't think they were included because people of that time regularly beat their children. If anything, I think it was the opposite- far too many parents were too soft. The consequences of that softness were often grave. After all, more than a few good kings of Judah had sons who turned out to be quite lesser men. I rather suspect that the prescriptions towards heavy discipline were given by those who saw the consequences of spoiling children and leaving them undisciplined. They hoped to inspire parents otherwise. Sadly, it seems that these lessons were, and are, not heeded.
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You're so right. Most of our friends thought we were way too strict with our children when they were young. About 10 years ago, they told us that we were right since we had children grow up to not be rebellious. God created us and certainly knows best how we should raise our children! He sure disciplines us and it hurts a lot.
Excellent post, Lori (as always)!! I need to print this off and put it on my fridge! I'll definitely be making the time to listen to that sermon you mentioned! Thank you so much!
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You're welcome! Voddie is an amazing preacher.
I got spanked more than I care to remember all my growing up years. I'm here to say, I SURVIVED and AM GLAD MY PARENTS LOVED ME ENOUGH TO OBEY GOD'S WORD in such a way. Did I enjoy it? um, No. Was it effective? Yes. Especially when it was followed with LOVING ENCOURAGEMENT to not repeat the offence. <3 Great stuff :)

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