Women have been asking what my advice to Anna would be concerning separation if I were mentoring her. I have mentored women in similar situations
but I will begin with quoting several verses about this topic first since I try
to give biblical counsel and not my own.
And the woman who hath a husband that believes
not and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him. For the unbelieving
husband is sanctified by the wife and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the
husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy {1
Corinthians 7:13, 14}
Therefore, I would encourage not separating from
Joshua since while she is living in the home with him, Jesus is living in this
home and he is being sanctified by her, as the verse states. If she separated, her children would visit Joshua where Jesus may not be
and this is never good. We don't know whether or not Joshua is truly a believer
but his actions say he is not and he needs to have a heart transformation by
Jesus. Even if he is a believer, he has been living in sin and the fruit of his
life isn't consistent with how a true believer should live.
If she separated from him, he would probably
live on his own and would be left to his own devices which is a bad idea. If
she loves Joshua, which I believe she does, she wants more than anything for
him to walk in the Spirit and to have saving faith in Jesus. There's nothing
more powerful than a transformed life in convicting others. Yes, he's probably seen this in her life ever since he married her, but there will likely be a lot more
accountability in his life from now on since he's proven he can't be trusted.
I would hope that godly men will surround him, hold
him accountable and speak Truth into him. I pray godly women are surrounding
Anna with encouragement, support and helping her in any way she needs help.
This family is going to need a lot of prayer and support from the family of God
and I am sure they are getting it.
Paul rebuked the church in Corinth because there was a man attending their church who was having sexual relations with his stepmother {1 Corinthians 5} and warned them that a little leaven leavens the whole lump. The
church then kicked him out and he became repentant. Then in 2
Corinthians, Paul exhorts the church to bring him back into the fold so that on the contrary you should rather forgive and
comfort him, otherwise such a one might be overwhelmed by excessive
sorrow. Wherefore I urge you to reaffirm your love for him {2 Corinthians 2:7, 8}. If a church can forgive a man who had sex with his stepmother, a church can forgive Josh. Also, since we are commanded to forgive a repentant brother 70 X 7 times, surely a wife is supposed to forgive a repentant husband who she is one flesh with this many times .
Many will cry "Divorce" since he cheated on
her and Jesus said it is okay to divorce if there's adultery. No, He did not.
He said that Moses allowed it due to the hardness of the people's heart. He answered and said, "Have you not read that He
who created them from the beginning made them male and female, and said, 'For
this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife,
and the two shall become one flesh’? So they are no longer two, but one flesh.
What therefore God has joined together let no man separate. Because of
your hardness of heart Moses permitted you to divorce your wives; but from the
beginning it has not been this way. And I say to you, whoever divorces
his wife, except for immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery"
{Matthew 19}. He's not telling anyone to divorce in these verses. No New
Testament writer wrote that divorce is the right thing to do; that it was good or
acceptable. Jesus was just saying that if the unfaithful man or woman divorces their spouse due to the hardness of their heart and the faithful spouse then remarries, the faithful spouse is not committing adultery. He is certainly NOT promoting divorce; quite the contrary!
The whole book of Hosea is
about a man who marries a prostitute who continues to be unfaithful to Hosea, yet he remains faithful to her; illustrating the fact that God remains faithful
to us when we are unfaithful. God hates divorce. Two wrongs never equal a
right. Their children will suffer much more if their parents get divorced than
if they stay together and work it out. We must all pray that Joshua will repent
and stay faithful to God and Anna until the day he dies. This is what we, as
the family of God, are called to do; to pray for complete healing and restoration of
this family. God is in the business of transforming hearts and bringing beauty
out of ashes.
Our life down here is about our faith in God and believing unto the end. It's not about our happiness, our success or anything else. God uses us when we are weak, broken and fragile to test our faith and see if we will believe Him and His many promises to us in spite of our pain and suffering. As we cling to Him by faith throughout our lives and do the hard, obedient and difficult thing, He is glorified. For faith is believing those things which are unseen but we know, without a shadow of a doubt, that He keeps every single one of His promises to us. We are nothing without Him.
Thank you Jesus. We are humbled as we stand in awe of your majesty.
Help us to endure until the end.
But without faith it is impossible to please him:
for he that cometh to God must believe that he is,
and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Hebrews 11:6
Our life down here is about our faith in God and believing unto the end. It's not about our happiness, our success or anything else. God uses us when we are weak, broken and fragile to test our faith and see if we will believe Him and His many promises to us in spite of our pain and suffering. As we cling to Him by faith throughout our lives and do the hard, obedient and difficult thing, He is glorified. For faith is believing those things which are unseen but we know, without a shadow of a doubt, that He keeps every single one of His promises to us. We are nothing without Him.
Thank you Jesus. We are humbled as we stand in awe of your majesty.
Help us to endure until the end.
But without faith it is impossible to please him:
for he that cometh to God must believe that he is,
and that he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.
Hebrews 11:6
Katie · 500 weeks ago
To be honest, I didn't even know websites that arranged affairs even existed... I'm sure others would say I've lived a sheltered life. I grew up in a strict Catholic family and I remember my mother and father counseling engaged couples (actually, they still do.) They don't believe in birth control or divorce. And while I joined my husband's Protestant church after we married, I'm always grateful for Mom's example. She always put Dad first above herself. I remember her never showing anger, just joy, no matter how tired she was. She has five kids and sacrificed so much for us. A lot of your posts remind me of her. And while my parents and I disagree on some of the things the Catholic Church teaches, I can see how wonderful their marraige is and how much their example helped me and is sill ministering to me. Even after Dad was diagnosed with Parkinson's, my mom has been unwavering in her faith and love to him, and he has always loved and been faithful to her and our family. I remember before getting married listening to their advice about marriage and keeping that promise you make to each other and God to stay with each other through sickness and health and better or for worse. I am so thankful for God's word and that women like you can teach us. When sad things happen to couples like Josh and Anna, it helps knowing there are still a lot of Godly marriages out there.
Lori Alexander 122p · 500 weeks ago
2happy4 66p · 500 weeks ago
I've also heard Christians say, divorce is okay so long as one of the 'A's is present, Adultery, Abuse or Addiction. I am not sure why they say this except perhaps it sounds both educated and benevolent; modern and hip? Christians seem to often forget the "for better or for worse" aspect of the marriage vows. They just decide that the "for worse" is optional. I think they are also taking the easy way out (not that divorce is easy of course) but being married to someone with these issues is often harder. But God calls us to the narrow path and promises to give us strength to walk it.
Also I believe Christian women ought to realize they they are not without recourse. They don't have to just stay married and do nothing about bad behavior. If their husband is participating in illegal activities, she doesn't have to sit quietly by. But I think it is easier for many women to divorce/separate from their husbands as opposed to standing by them during a conviction that occurred because she had the strength to get the police involved. It is easier to leave the home/or make the husband leave than it is to love the husband through adultery. I know of a Christian program that has an 80% success rate of restoring marriages (even marriages who have already been through divorce). I mention it all the time when I hear about a marriage on the rocks. Of 20 or so couples I've mentioned it to, only one has ever gone through the program (they are still married today after she had an affair 15 years ago). Everyone else seems to have had an excuse and every other couple, except one who is still perhaps hanging on by a thread, are divorced. It was just easier to divorce than to put the investment into keeping their marriage together.
Lori Alexander 122p · 500 weeks ago
Josh entered a rehab program today and hopefully it's like the one you mentioned. I am sure godly men are in his life giving him wise counsel on what he needs to do. Yes, our society does what makes them feel good or what they believe to be right instead of checking the Bible for the answers.
lauraashley · 500 weeks ago
Do you remember Magic Johnson the basketball player? He got HIV from an affair. I believe he had so many he doesn't know exactly where it came from. His wife didnt leave the realtionship. His wife never and children never got HIV. Now he is a Christian. I believed Magic Johnson was used by God to help many others with HIV.
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Ken · 500 weeks ago
I am so sorry for your plight in marriage. You are an example that in spite of all a Christian spouse may want to do to honor her marriage, the Lord may be asking her to turn her abusive husband into the authorities so that he might find the discipline necessary to ultimately not only behave properly, but to be restored. Believers are not immune to marrying mentally and emotionally sick people, or marrying someone who is depressed, runs to the doctor for help., and the next thing you know the pills have turned them manic. Separating in such cases where physical welfare of spouse and kids is at stake is a necessary option for some.
I may write a post soon on the issue of dealing with the flesh, and specifically fleshly habits and sins that often stem from childhood and erupt in a marriage. Just because someone has claimed the blood of Jesus as Savior does not remove them from their flesh and past, until such time as they begin to walk by faith in those ares of their life. One can be saved and yet have a compartment filled with sin that they are unwilling to give up. Christ has forgiven their sins on the cross, yet they are clinging strongly to them, for one reason or another.
Also, I do not know about your husband, nor do I know what is true about Josh, but it would not surprise me if drugs or alcohol are not involved. A guy like Josh can be prescribed all kinds of psychiatric type drugs for mood issues only to discover that it sends them into mania. The behavior seen by Josh sure looks like what I have seen in some of the men I have known who in a manic state did many things that they later completely regretted. With millions on these anti-depressants, it wold not surprise me at all to find out that Josh is one of them. Doctors see the drugs as better than leaving the patient depressed, and they know full well that it can turn them into people they would never be without the drugs.
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Ken · 500 weeks ago
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Lori Alexander 122p · 500 weeks ago
We are so thankful for the outpouring of love, care and prayers for our family during this most difficult situation with Josh. As parents we are so deeply grieved by our son’s decisions and actions. His wrong choices have deeply hurt his precious wife and children and have negatively affected so many others. He has also brought great insult to the values and faith we hold dear. Yesterday Josh checked himself into a long-term treatment center. For him it will be a long journey toward wholeness and recovery. We pray that in this he comes to complete repentance and sincere change. In the meantime, we will be offering our love, care and devoted support to Anna and our grandchildren as she also receives counsel and help for her own heart and future. During this time we continue to look to God—He is our rock and comfort. We ask for your continued prayers for our entire family.
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sunshinelthiry 0p · 500 weeks ago
It is also worth noting that there is ZERO scriptural support for wife-initiated divorce even in the case of adultery. Matthew 19 is directed at men.