This was a difficult post for me to write. I'm still not certain that what I write here is biblically sounds but I am always searching for Truth. Sharing Truth is MUCH more important to me than sharing my opinions. I am a Truth-seeker. I don't want to give my opinions in areas of eternal significance. I want to examine Scriptures carefully to see what God's Word teaches concerning godliness, not mine. Here is what John Piper had to say about opinions verses speaking Truth:
Don’t just spread
opinions, but yes, do give careful, well-reasoned, biblically saturated, well
informed, compassionate, Christ-exalting, humble convictions about the issues
of our day. There is not enough of that. There is plenty of opinion, but there
is not enough of that. Then let the chips fall where they will. If you get
criticized, you get criticized. If we stop speaking because we are afraid of
criticism of stirring up people’s slandering us, we will never communicate in
any public forum. Don’t be intimidated by negative feedback.
Don’t stop speaking and
living the truth. Do stop the buckshot of opinion scattering, but don’t stop
the well-aimed rifle bullet of truth at the stronghold of error.
The exception clause that Jesus gave about
divorce "except it be for fornication" baffles
me. The verses in Mark 10:2-12 concerning the same words of Jesus on this issue don't give the exception clause. Luke 16:18
doesn't either. In fact, in Matthew, when asked by the Pharisees if a man can
put away his wife, Jesus plainly answered that from the beginning He made them
male and female; a man shall leave his parents and cleave to his wife becoming
one flesh, thus rejecting Deuteronomy 24:1 which the Pharisees had brought up.
He ended by saying that whatever God has joined together, let NO man put
asunder. Paul, along with the other New Covenant writers, never gives adultery or any other reason as an excuse for divorce.
Consider Paul's teaching in 1 Corinthians
7.
And unto the married I command, yet not I but the Lord, Let not the
wife depart from her husband: But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife. He goes on to write, But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.
wife depart from her husband: But and if she depart, let her remain unmarried, or be reconciled to her husband: and let not the husband put away his wife. He goes on to write, But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.
There's still
no word about divorce here and he could have easily used it since he has used
the word before but always in connection with sin. A believing spouse must let an unbelieving spouse leave if
they want, but they don't pursue divorce or remarriage, since they are vow
keepers regardless of what their spouse does.
Since I continue to seek Truth in this area, I
listened to Voddie Buacham's sermon on "The Permanence of Marriage." He teaches that the Bible doesn't give any
reason for divorce or remarriage. Some will argue that the innocent spouse whose wife or husband divorced them should be able to remarry. However, if the spouse who leaves and divorces the spouse who stays, I'm NOT convinced that the abandoned spouse can't remarry. For those who have been divorced and remarried, Pastor Baucham makes it very clear that they should confess their sin, but then commit to the
permanence of the marriage they are presently in. This is the kind of God we serve! He forgives ALL sin.
Did you notice that in the exception clause,
Jesus used the word fornication in this verse instead of adultery? {KJV
version} The definition of fornication is "sexual intercourse between two unmarried persons." If Jesus was talking
about married people here, it seems He would have used the word "adultery" {voluntary sexual intercourse between a married person and a person who is not his or her spouse} since He used it in other parts of Scripture. Whosoever puts away his wife, and marries another,
commits adultery: and whosoever marries her that is put away
from her husband commits adultery. {Luke 16:18}. He used the word "adultery" in this verse from Luke but NOT in the exception clause. Why would He use the word "fornication" in
the exception clause? Matthew was written mainly to the Jewish people who were still living
under the Law. This is why the book of Matthew is filled with Messianic prophesy.
Remember when Joseph and Mary were betrothed and she was found pregnant. This is what was written about this situation since Joseph thought she had committed fornication; then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a public example, was minded to put her away privily {Matthew 1:19}. "Put her away" means "divorce." They weren't even married yet; how could this be?
Remember when Joseph and Mary were betrothed and she was found pregnant. This is what was written about this situation since Joseph thought she had committed fornication; then Joseph her husband, being a just man, and not willing to make her a public example, was minded to put her away privily {Matthew 1:19}. "Put her away" means "divorce." They weren't even married yet; how could this be?
During the betrothal period, before the
marriage ceremony and consummation, if a soon-to-be wife is found to be "unclean," the
man is allowed to divorce her. Perhaps Jesus is giving the exception clause for
those who find that their wives have fornicated before the actual ceremony. I
believe He would have used the word "adultery" if He
meant they had already gone through the marriage ceremony, consummated their marriage and became one flesh. Besides all this, this exception clause is in only ONE book in
the entire New Testament, yet many give it too much weight. We must
always take the Bible as a whole; not give one little phrase much weight weight but
measure it against the entire New Covenant which was written for us and teaches us to forgive and love one another. Nowhere
else in the other Gospels or books of the New Covenant is divorce allowed.
Voddie Baucham gives many examples of marriages that are NOT biblical reasons for divorce: imprisonment, alcoholism, drug addiction, adultery, gambling, etc. He admits this is hard teaching, but Truth is hard. It's a narrow road we walk on. His church does, however, help protect women and children who may be in harm due to a disobedient husband; as all churches should do and even call the authorities when needed. {If a woman ever came to me who was married to a truly evil man like a murderer or a child molester, it would be VERY difficult for me not to recommend her getting a divorce.}
According to the book of Hebrews, all God cares about is that we keep our faith in Him until the end. He will use trials and sufferings in our life to refine our faith and cause us to depend upon Him. Only those who endure until the end, will be saved. The ONLY unforgivable sin is unbelief. MANY have suffered horribly for their faith.
Others had trial
of cruel mockings and scourgings, yea, moreover of bonds and
imprisonment: They were stoned, they were sawn asunder, were tempted, were
slain with the sword: they wandered about in sheepskins and goatskins; being
destitute, afflicted, tormented; Of whom the world was not worthy: they
wandered in deserts, and in mountains, and in dens and
caves of the earth. {Hebrews 11}
Yes, life down here is hard and some of you are married to very disobedient husbands. If these people could endure being stoned and tormented for their faith, surely you can endure a disobedient husband with the help of godly people in your life. Your husband may be just the thing that God will use in your life to refine your faith and make you more like Jesus. This is NOT our home. We have an everlasting home that will be perfect. Cling to this hope, which will be a reality one day soon.
Yes, life down here is hard and some of you are married to very disobedient husbands. If these people could endure being stoned and tormented for their faith, surely you can endure a disobedient husband with the help of godly people in your life. Your husband may be just the thing that God will use in your life to refine your faith and make you more like Jesus. This is NOT our home. We have an everlasting home that will be perfect. Cling to this hope, which will be a reality one day soon.
But without faith it is
impossible to please Him:
for he that comes to God must believe that
He is and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him.
for he that comes to God must believe that
He is and that He is a rewarder of them that diligently seek Him.
Hebrews 11:6
***Next Monday, September 7th, I'm going to be starting a 10-week series using Nancy Leigh DeMoss' study guide called "Interior Design: Ten Elements of Biblical Womanhood." You can order it HERE if you would like to follow along. Some of the chapters include: Discernment, Affection, Discipline, Virtue, Disposition, and Beauty. It will be an encouraging and convicting study. Please join us!
The picture is my son, Steven, with his bride, Emily. They continue to love each other
***Next Monday, September 7th, I'm going to be starting a 10-week series using Nancy Leigh DeMoss' study guide called "Interior Design: Ten Elements of Biblical Womanhood." You can order it HERE if you would like to follow along. Some of the chapters include: Discernment, Affection, Discipline, Virtue, Disposition, and Beauty. It will be an encouraging and convicting study. Please join us!
The picture is my son, Steven, with his bride, Emily. They continue to love each other
deeply. They plan on being in the "honeymoon"
phase of marriage all of their days!
Tawnya Howell · 499 weeks ago
Rob · 499 weeks ago
Problem is that in our spouses we only want to see the bad and we forget about the good. We dwell on negativity!!!! If we are truly living for Christ, then there should be harmony in the marriage. I know it's easier said than done, trust me, I know first hand but I am as commited to my marriage as I am The Lord!!!
I've been married for 15 years, trust me when I say temptation surrounds us everyday in this world so protect your eyes from others, commit yourself to your spouse and make it work. My marriage isn't going to be a statistic!!! Think about this if Ashley Madison had 38 million members and almost all were men; why is that?? I am not saying it's the wives' fault men cheat, but trust me when I say husbands want to provide and protect, not cheat and divorce!!!! In our own marriages, let's not dwell on the bad; let's cherish the good and maybe the bad becomes less. If we are true Christians we should be commited to Christ, not divorce!!!!!!
Anonymous · 499 weeks ago
There is a passage that I have only seen mentioned once in all my study of this topic, and it has been really helpful for me to consider. If you look at the original Greek meaning for loosed, it is related to divorce. And I had never considered these verses to be a progression that could apply to the same person, in other words, if you who have been loosed/divorced do marry, you have not sinned. Here's the quote with my own interpretations in brackets:
"Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed [divorced]. Art thou loosed [divorced] from a wife? seek not a wife. But and if thou [who have loosed/divorced and chosen to seek a wife] marry, thou hast not sinned; and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned. Nevertheless such shall have trouble in the flesh: but I spare you" (1 Corinthians 7:27 - 7:28 KJV)
I just thought those verses were worthy of consideration on the topic, and rarely see these two verses brought up.
If I could go back in time, I would "seek not to be loosed" and would counsel others the same way, but I praise God that there is no condemnation and that I now have an incredibly godly wonderful husband and four blessed children together.
Thank you, Lori, for your strong words to Christian women.
2happy4 66p · 499 weeks ago
FREEINDEED! · 499 weeks ago
How is it that we are compelled to make a decision to devote our entire life to someone (with God as our witness), yet somehow, down the road, we think it's fine for us to make a different decision?
My sister recently had an affair. Fine. Confess the sin & move on. Her husband was understanding and forgiving, very willing to work through the situation. But when I talked to her, she was saying things like, " I just need to decide what I want. . ". And everyone was telling her, "yes, you do". Where does this come from? She is a woman who ALREADY committed her life to someone. She has already " decided". There is no more choosing. It does not matter who else is better in whatever ways. She cannot choose them because she has already chosen.
Sin is going to be part of marriage. We know that when we sign up. Our marriages will not be perfect because we are not perfect beings. We will undoubtedly all do awful things and hurt each other badly. We are, after all, marrying another human being!
I think the more dangerous thing is this thought that after we've chosen and vowed to death (!), we are free to choose differently if we change our minds. It makes no sense. It should never even be entertained or discussed.
Thank you for taking this on. I didn't have time to comment last week but your Duggar posts were spot on as well. Really, it's the same issue. In marriage, we are bound for life. So, we deal with our sin as necessary and we move on.
Btw- I will be joining you for book review as well. Looking forward to it.
Rajun Cajun · 499 weeks ago
(1) The exception clause that Jesus gave about divorce "except it be for fornication" baffles me.
and
(2) Besides all this, this exception clause is in only ONE book in the entire New Testament, yet many give it too much weight.
All scripture is God breathed. Just because the exception clause(s) is/are (1) baffling and (2) it is mentioned in only ONE book of the New Testament does not negate it's truth. The fact remains that God included it in the Bible. We as Christians have to deal with it.
The word of God says, "....everyone who divorces his wife, except for the reason of unchastity, makes her commit adultery...." The word "except" here means there is an actual exception where divorcing one's wife/spouse does not result in him/her committing adultery if they remarry post divorce. Adultery means sex with someone who is married to another. So where unchastity or fornication (i.e. porneia) occurred while the two were married resulting in divorce, the word of God indicates that God does not consider the two married anymore (i.e. the one flesh union has been broken).
If God did consider the two still married after divorcing as a result of unchastity/fornication then the divorcee would in fact be committing adultery when they remarried. God's word says that the divorcee is NOT committing adultery in this case. Again this is not saying that divorce is encouraged but is biblically allowed in two circumstances.
Alisha Jackson · 499 weeks ago
The scripture you have quoted was asking Paul if people should get married at all. When he says you have not sinned if you get married hes not saying if you are loosed from a wife now you can get remarried. He's just stating if you want to marry for the first time you can even though he thought it was better to not marry and live a life dedicated to the Lord.. First lets look at Scripture.
1 Corinthians 7:27-29
27 Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed. Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife.
28 But and if thou marry, thou hast not sinned; and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned. Nevertheless such shall have trouble in the flesh: but I spare you.
If you look at verse 28 he is talking to a non-married man and woman. We see that because the woman is a virgin. That means never been married. He's just saying it is ok to get married not remarried even though he thought it would be hard during that time because great persecution was happening.
Alisha Jackson · 499 weeks ago
Rob · 499 weeks ago
We struggle in our marriage, sometimes we feel to the point of no return!!!
Since we were married unsaved in 2011 we went to Jamiaca and renewed our vows as Saved bible believing Christians
The reason I say this isn't to boast; it's to say if you married as a non-believer, renew your vows if you become a believer. It gives you a fresh start
So as Christian if your married and we say for better or worse is there a list of situations given if the worse gets too much then is there a clause "well that's to worse; I'm outta here?"
Because isn't that saying to your spouse I'm better than you and your are worse than me so I'm leaving!!! I don't remember that clause. I understand cheating is something horrible and probably one the worst things you can do, but hey, if God can forgive you when you repent can't a spouse!!! Isn't that putting yourself higher than God!!!!
Annon · 499 weeks ago
Anonymous · 499 weeks ago
My father did remarry, marrying a woman who left her first husband in order to marry him (they had been seeing each other for some time prior). I only saw him three times in my life (his choice). It's a learning experience, and one that, while it is painful, teaches you many truths about life.
But, while my mother and I have many differences, one thing I will always be grateful for is her example in taking her vows literally. At great personal and financial cost, she raised us alone, worked from home to earn a meager living, homeschooled us, and stayed faithful to her marriage vows to Dad (her parents helped her out when she had extreme financial difficulties; when I was at high school age and able to handle the house myself, she went back to full-time employment outside the home). Her fidelity has had an eternal ramification on the lives of all three of us girls.
Anonymous · 499 weeks ago
illicit sexual intercourse
adultery, fornication, homosexuality, lesbianism, intercourse with animals etc.
sexual intercourse with close relatives; Lev. 18
sexual intercourse with a divorced man or woman; Mar 10:11,Mar 10:12 (refs2)
metaphorically the worship of idols
of the defilement of idolatry, as incurred by eating the sacrifices offered to idols. Now, you see the full range of meaning. Let me state also Jesus was agreeing with Deuteronomy not disagreeing. In most instances Jesus agreed with the house of hilel on Jewish law,but here he agreed with Shammai .Jewish law can take a very liberal view of divorce..but Deuteronomy does not......*[[Deu 24:1]] KJV* When a man hath taken a wife, and married her, and it come to pass that she find no favour in his eyes, because he hath found some uncleanness in her: then let him write her a bill of divorcement, and give it in her hand, and send her out of his house. The word uncleanness is evrah and means nakedness or shamefulness or specifically lawdness I.e sexual immorality.
Dennis Marks · 499 weeks ago
Dennis Marks · 499 weeks ago
sheepfold · 396 weeks ago