Always Learning: Is Chivalry Dead?

Tuesday, January 24, 2012

Is Chivalry Dead?

Yes, I think so. When women start acting like women, men will start acting like men.

There has been a big to do over the cruise ship sinking and men not taking care of the women and children like they did on the Titanic. I blame that on feminism.

I don't recall a time in America's past where women were abused as feminists claim. The "rights" the feminists wanted were to vote and be able to act as men ~ hold the same jobs, wear the same clothes, etc. Women wanted to be like men. They didn't want to stay home and raise babies.

I don't think being home and raising babies is abusive. I'm sorry. I think that it is a wonderful thing.

So feminism has won. Women can be men. They can fight wars, they can have full time careers, they can choose to not marry and have children, they can sleep around, they can drink and smoke, they can be policemen, etc. I don't see this as being a great benefit to society. I know. I am extreme.

So why should men allow women to go onto lifeboats first on a sinking ship? Women have made it known loudly and clearly that they are equal to men in every way. Men believe it and now treat them as their equal.

Women use to act like women. They use to dress femininely, walk and talk like a woman, desire a home with a husband and babies. They wanted a man who would protect them and provide for them.

They don't want that anymore. I do...I like being a woman. I want a man that wants to protect me. I don't want to fight wars and kill robbers. I want to be home and make it warm and happy. I don't like what feminism has done to our country and to our men. It makes me sad...My precious husband would ABSOLUTELY make sure I was on a lifeboat before him.

But let it be the hidden person of the heart, with the imperishable quality of a gentle and quiet spirit, which is precious in the sight of God.

I Peter 3:4

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FABBY · 687 weeks ago

You have described our times perfectly!! I always believed this myself and thought that the problem is fminism and women have led themselves to believe they have to be like men in order to be a terrific great women! I hear some good intended young women sometimes how men are not like they used to be, only on my hubs generation! I feel sorry for these young women, but embracing the women equaling the men it's what brought so much bad in the world, children left alone and turning into bad adults! I'm glad you've put my thoughts it into words! God bless.
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Jessica · 687 weeks ago

LOVE!! My hubby is very chivalrous too and I praise God to be blessed with such a good man!

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Emily · 687 weeks ago

Amen!!!

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AMY · 687 weeks ago

Some women will agree with you that things were better before woman's rights, but other woman thank God for the woman's movement. I remember my great grandmother telling me about the first time she voted in an election. I can't fathom what it was like for women before they got the right to vote; to live in a country, under a government, that you have no say in. World War two is when droves of women entered the work place. They had to, because so many men were away at war. Many women were content returning home when the war ended, but others enjoyed working. Some women want to work, others don't. That's their choice. Some women want to hold more dangerous jobs (police, fire-people, military, etc) that is their choice. I love the fact that while my great grandmother was grateful to get the right to vote, my daughters know they can grow up and hold a political office if they desired. The women’s rights movement gave women choices. To me that’s a beautiful thing! We all heard horror stories about women living in countries where they have no choice.

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AMY · 687 weeks ago

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We need to empower our daughters to protect themselves. Why should a strong able bodied woman be put on a life boat before anybody else? Women and men should work together and make sure that the kids, elderly, and disabled are taken care of first. I’m not weak. Anyone who doubts a woman’s ability to be a hero should read “Women at Ground Zero”. The book tells the stories of female firefighters, police officers, and everyday women who were heroes on that horrible day.

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I'm T · 687 weeks ago

Able-bodied people should have been helping the less able, regardless of gender. I'm sure that it's just as true that younger adults weren't helping older adults either.

You can blame feminism, I'll blame the 'me' society that exists today.

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Tiffany · 687 weeks ago

I agree with every last word!

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Joluise · 687 weeks ago

I work full time and expect equal pay and equal rights at work (shouldn’t this be the case)- but I am not a man and don't behave like a man but in my line of work I do the same work as a man. I am glad I can vote and I can divorce without losing my property or children - thanks to changes in law. I can be at home if I wish, or I can work – shouldn’t that be ok. I don’t want to be forced out my job just because I am married.

I like being a woman, I love my children (adult) and home and husband, I love been protected by my husband, I love caring for my home – does this mean I should not work? And I don’t work because of any feminist ideology, I work because I do something I enjoy. Is this a crime?

Not everything is the fault of feminism at all – it is the fault of a self centred world who is only interested in “ME”.

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Karen · 687 weeks ago

I agree with everything you said! My hubby would never ever go before a woman or child. I hadn't heard this, and it is absolutely heartbreaking. Absolutely ~ you teach people how to treat you! That is unfortunate for those of us woman that don't embrace feminism. I am always amazed at the men that will push past me and my little girl to get through a door, and if there is a polite one we always let them know we appreciate their kindness.

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Viola · 687 weeks ago

"I don't recall a time in America's past where women were abused as feminists claim."

...And here comes the ignorance, right on cue.

"I don't think being home and raising babies is abusive"
Whoever said it was?

"There has been a big to do over the cruise ship sinking and men not taking care of the women and children like they did on the Titanic."
The kids definitely should be taken care of. The women? Pronk no. A woman is an adult. Grown up. She has legs, and a brain. If you want to act like a child because you're afraid of responsibility (and from reading your blog, that's the picture I get) then you go and live your life like that. But don't expect everyone else to. And don't expect your husband to act like your father, because that's not fair on him.

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Viola · 687 weeks ago

..cont.

"they can drink and smoke"
Nothing wrong with alcohol in moderation. Smoking had nothing to do with feminism. It has to do with a lack of thinking of consequences.

"I don't want to fight wars and kill robbers. I want to be home and make it warm and happy. "
That is your choice. Being a mother is a perfectly fine choice. But that's not what Sarah Jones down the road wants to do. Maybe she wants to do something different. And that's a perfectly fine choice, too.

Please stop expecting everyone to be like you.

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jbeane6 36p · 687 weeks ago

I love using the message to help clarify some of the scripture I know by heart from the KJV.
Romans 12:1 speaks clearly to the issues of this post.
So here's what I want you to do, God helping you: Take your everyday, ordinary life—your sleeping, eating, going-to-work, and walking-around life—and place it before God as an offering. Embracing what God does for you is the best thing you can do for him. Don't become so well-adjusted to your culture that you fit into it without even thinking. Instead, fix your attention on God. You'll be changed from the inside out. Readily recognize what he wants from you, and quickly respond to it. Unlike the culture around you, always dragging you down to its level of immaturity, God brings the best out of you, develops well-formed maturity in you.

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themuppetfairy 56p · 687 weeks ago

People often think the feminist movement to be a bad one, but before that movement happened, women were not allowed to vote, they had no property rights, husband had legal power over and responsibility for their wives to the extent that they could imprison or beat them with impunity, divorce and child custody laws favored men, giving no rights to women, most jobs were closed to women, and what jobs were available women were paid only a fraction of what men earned, women had no means to gain an education since no college or university would accept women students, etc. I am glad to live in a country that allows me the ability to get an education, and if, heaven forbid my husband died, the ability to get a good paying job to make ends meet. As to what happened with the cruise ship I don't think it fair to blame the feminist movement. I think it has to do with how we're raising our children. Most younger generations do not think about the elderly, the disabled, or the young, they think about themselves.

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Anne · 687 weeks ago

Amen!

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Adriana · 687 weeks ago

Maybe it's my egalitarian upbringing speaking, but I don't think that being a woman makes you any more likely to drown? I agree that certain people -- namely children, elderly, disabled, and otherwise "in need of help" -- should be given priority in this type of emergency situation, but I think an adult female is just as capable of taking care of herself on a sinking luxury cruise ship as is an adult male. If anything, parents -- mothers AND fathers -- should be given priority, if we must give priority to otherwise capable people.

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Jessica · 687 weeks ago

Great post - I really enjoyed it, very thought provoking!

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Jessica

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anonymous · 687 weeks ago

adam was created first-- then eve.
It is a man's job to protect and care for women, they may be just as able in body and mind-- but that doesnt change the man's job. I totally agree with Lori-- feminism is the problem. Women dont want to be treated weak and smaller. Its all about ME, no one wants to be put down.

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Janine · 687 weeks ago

There were lots of women and children who died on the Titanic, and lots of men on those lifeboats.

Everything isn't the fault of women. If there were cowardly men on that boat a few weeks ago, that is their fault, not the fault of the women.

Are men so weak that they change their behavior based on whether feminism is in vogue or not?

Besides, Italian culture is not known for it's feminist values. Have you ever been there?

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JJJ · 687 weeks ago

"Women dont want to be treated weak and smaller. "

I am not weak. Far from it. Most of the women I know are not weak. There is nothing in Scritpure that says women are weak. Where did that come from?

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Laura · 687 weeks ago

Hi Lori,
I enjoy your blog. I agree with much of what you said in your post, but Viola makes some good points, too. Before women won the right to vote, they were often treated as just another piece of property.
I don't want to dress like a man, or talk or walk like one either. But I do want to be treated with respect, and I don't think "the old days" were as rosy as we might imagine. TV and literature often give us the false idea that all husbands were kind and caring, but a lot of women were not so fortunate.
Anther point I'd like to make is that it's possible to nurture children, love a man, make the home a warm, safe place AND "kill robbers". I love being a wife and mother.I love my husband and kids fiercely, and would fight like a tiger to protect them if I had to! Let's not forget that some women are happily married , but perhaps caring for husbands who can't physically protect them.

In short, I don't always see eye to eye with you, but I like your message enough to keep coming back, so please keep writing!

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JoAnn · 687 weeks ago

I agree. When I read your posting today, I caught myself nodding (yes) in agreement with you as I read your posting. I too am perfectly happy attending to matters of home and family. I appreciate many of the opportunities for women that have resulted with the feminism movement, yet I am thankful that I have the choice of what/which of those opportunities I elect to bring into my life.

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brian miller · 687 weeks ago

whew way to kick the can with this one...strong words, many of which i agree...no i dont think chivalry is dead...not in all at least...and i like my wife as a woman and want to treat her as such...

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Messy Marriage · 687 weeks ago

I probably don't embrace my role as a woman and wife as much as I should. I want to take charge and lead way too much in my household. I know I need to let my husband be the man he needs and should be. This was a thought-provoking post, Lori. Thanks for sharing your point of view.

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Fran · 687 weeks ago

"They can fight wars, they can have full time careers, they can choose to not marry and have children, they can sleep around, they can drink and smoke, they can be policemen, etc. " In Jesus, we have the freedom to make our own decisions. Everything may be permitted, but not everything is profitable and beneficial. However, how much more valuable is it to live in a society with the freedom to choose the things mentioned above and then still choose a path of domestic fulfillment as a keeper at home. Let us not put on rose colored glasses with the past. Women were abused and until half a century ago, there was not such thing as laws against "domestic violence." Keeping your home wasn't your choice, it was basically your command and only option. It is important to acknowledge that we are blessed to live in a time where we recognize the depth of sacrifice and blessing that comes with being a wife and mother.
And I hesitate to bring this up, but not all women choose not to marry and have children. Many MANY women feel it is their heart's desire to be protected by a Christ following husband and raise children. Sometimes, strong, Christian young women do not meet their future husbands until later in life, if at all. And, in reality, a significant minority of couples struggle with infertility. Yes, being a wife and mother is a natural, God approved, beautiful calling for a woman. But that does not mean there are not other Christ centered callings and paths for the lives of young Christian women.

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AMY · 687 weeks ago

I am profoundly grateful for feminism and the choices that it has brought all women. Regardless of people’s feelings about feminism, this is the world we live in today. Parents today need to raise their daughters to be strong, smart, empowered women. They need to be able to provide and protect themselves!

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