Are you raising a rebellious harlot of Babylon or a beautiful Bride of Christ? The feminist movement has been giving the message that women must become more assertive, independent, and demanding of their rights. This is completely opposite of what God wants women to become. It is self-seeking and goes contrary to the servant attitude of Christ. As a result, our society is crumbling at its foundation, the home.
Look around at the teenagers today. I recall a man telling of his taking his son to his first day of junior high. Out in front were gathered a group of young girls dressed in tight short clothing and tons of makeup. He immediately turned the car around and said he wasn't going to drop his son off to a bunch of hookers.
As mothers we must be careful as we raise our daughters not to pursue worldly things and worldly appearances.Often Christian mothers are so into how their daughters look, and how they dress, that they give off the wrong messages. It is no wonder that prom night arrives and we find our Christian young ladies dressed just like the world, boobs hanging out and dresses slit up to the butt, and then we lament that it was at the all night party she lost her virginity.
Girls are taught to be strong and aggressive taking over the roles of men and even desiring to fight on the front lines in battle. They have been taught to never depend upon a man and they can even act like men: sleep around, call them on the phone and ask them out, go boldly after what they want, have a career spent all day away from home, etc.
Girls are taught to be strong and aggressive taking over the roles of men and even desiring to fight on the front lines in battle. They have been taught to never depend upon a man and they can even act like men: sleep around, call them on the phone and ask them out, go boldly after what they want, have a career spent all day away from home, etc.
God, on the other hand, asks women to pursue godliness. He tells us to be pure and have a gentle and quiet spirit. He wants us to dress modestly and in the King James version we are commanded to be "shamefaced" which is the opposite of bold and flirtatious.
However, it doesn't mean we don't exude the joy of the Lord. We should be joyful, warm, and cheerful. If a young man is interested in you, young women, be friendly and talk to him but not dominating the conversation or aggressively flirtatious.
Mothers, train your daughters in the ways of the Lord. Teach them how to represent Christ in all they say and do. Encourage them to flee the ways of the world, the rebellious harlots of Babylon, and walk along the narrow path of freedom that Jesus has created for us to walk upon. This path of righteousness springs forth with living water where they will find long lasting joy.
And behold, a woman comes to meet him,
Dressed as a harlot and cunning of heart.
She is boisterous and rebellious,
Her feet do not remain at home.
Dressed as a harlot and cunning of heart.
She is boisterous and rebellious,
Her feet do not remain at home.
Proverbs 7:10, 11
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sue · 631 weeks ago
Not sure men are supposed to be sleeping around anymore than women. Is this how you think men do, can or should act?
Anthea · 631 weeks ago
bluecottonmemory 55p · 631 weeks ago
Jen · 631 weeks ago
middlechild · 631 weeks ago
Liz · 631 weeks ago
They are obviously dressing for attention but then when they *get* the attention, they cry to their parents/teachers/etc. about how the boys are staring at them inappropriately.
Erin · 631 weeks ago
My husband also brought it to my attention(which I had never thought about before) is why do christian women wear jeans with crosses on the back pockets. It draws attention to your rear and it seems disrespectful.
Mrs. P · 631 weeks ago
virginiaknowles 18p · 631 weeks ago
PJB · 631 weeks ago
There are other things I disagree with here, which I'm sure isn't a surprise to you -- but before this point we have always been able to disagree without worldly name calling. My heart aches for our oversexualized young people too... but this goes too far.
Other points of disagreement:
- Many good women are assertive.
- Independence, as well as interdependence are positive qualities in both genders. The inability to get along in life without being someone's dependent is not a virtue.
- Rights are important. If a woman has a human right that someone is denying her, I expect her to be pro-active about that.
- It is not good to be self-seeking, but one can be an entirely selfless woman who is still assertive, capable of independence and concerned about the human rights of all people (which only incidentally includes herself). Christ was very assertive, and definitely independent. He did lay down His own rights for the good of others, but He was on a mission. His example is not one of being walked-over because other people are taking advantage of His weakness, but one of surrendering for a purpose.
- I think a young woman can dress in a sexy way without going too far... and what exactly is 'too far' seems hard to put one's finger on... but I love the look of formal wear, and I don't see a lot of actual butt or boobs over-exposed... i suppose it's a personal thing.
- I don't believe virginity is more than a medical term, as such it's "loss" is a physical not a spiritual matter. A sexually active person who ceases their sexual activity and repents in Christ is just as "pure" as if she had never "lost" anything.
- Personal strength is a good thing.
- Aggression has a place and a time (As-per Ecclesiastes) that is not restricted by gender.
- Serving one's country in a military capacity is honorable in either gender.
- Girls should not be taught to 'depend' on men other than in a parental role. When they are ready to blend their lives and enter an inter-dependent relationship, that is marriage. Before that point she should be capable of independence.
- Sleeping around is not "acting like a man" it is acting like a sinner.
- Phone calls are perfectly normal for young people of either gender.
- There is no real difference between asking a young man out and letting him know you would like him to ask you. It's just semantics.
- It is a command of Scripture that all Christians should be bold.
- All people set goals and pursue 'what they want'.
- There is no reason for a woman not to have a career, or part of a career, according to her preference, as long as her children, her husband or the economic of her household do not suffer neglect.
- Godliness does not mean that people should not be bold, goal-oriented, strong, sexual (in the right context), assertive or independent. Many godly men and women make those traits into strong virtues.
- Purity is a command to Christians of both genders. There is no reason to expect men and women to be different in their purity.
- The command to have a gentle and quiet spirit is also a command to Christians of both genders. There is no reason to expect men and women to be different in their gentleness or quietness of spirit.
- To dress modestly is primarily addressed to the issue of the rich-poor conflict in the early Church. It urges rich women to refrain from visually flaunting their status.
- Shame is not a part of a healthy Christian attitude, regardless of the translation choice of the early fathers of English language Scripture translation.
- Not dominating the conversation or being aggressively flirtatious are good social skills for all young people... I suppose they will grow up a little and get the hang of not being so awkward eventually.
- The proverbs passage is drawing on cultural imagery to make a point about how all folly and godlessness is "seductive" like a sex trade worker's propositions. It is not intentionally making a comment on concrete ways to identify sex trade workers in regular life.
PasserBy · 631 weeks ago
"Lori, I'm really disappointed to read your opinion of such young and vulnerable girls."
Girls who still have a wicked sin-nature, just like the rest of us. But it would appear that you don't believe this.
"There are other things I disagree with here, which I'm sure isn't a surprise to you -- but before this point we have always been able to disagree without worldly name calling "
What you term "worldly name calling" (sic) is nothing other than the terminology found in Scripture. Terminology which Jesus Himself employed.
"My heart aches for our oversexualized young people too..."
Your heart would appear to ache only for yourself and maintaining your "self esteem". If your heart really ached for young people, then you'd call them out on their sin, rather than simply sentimentalising them and calling it Christianity.
And the points on your long list are almost wholly unscriptural. I had to laugh at this one, though...
"I don't see a lot of actual butt or boobs over-exposed... i suppose it's a personal thing. "
Then either you're a hermit, you live in Saudi Arabia, you're blind, you walk around with your eyes fixed skywards or on the floor --- or you're simply lying. If you live in the US, you have only to look around you to see the truth of the article.
"I don't believe virginity is more than a medical term, as such it's "loss" is a physical not a spiritual matter. A sexually active person who ceases their sexual activity and repents in Christ is just as "pure" as if she had never "lost" anything. "
Wishful thinking, and totally unbiblical. ...And a lie which damages so many of the young people about which you claim your heart aches.
With the exception of your abuse of Ecclesiastes, your points make absolutely no reference to Scripture. But you're not under the authority of Scripture: you reject it. And twist it.
To say that shame is "not a part of a healthy Christian attitude" would go down just fine in Sodom. ...Which is were we're headed. Thanks in large part to the deceptions of those who call themselves Christians yet promote the lies of the culture.
"The proverbs passage is drawing on cultural imagery to make a point about how all folly and godlessness is "seductive" like a sex trade worker's propositions "
Pure eisegesis, and total rubbish: no serious theologian or Hebrew scholar would agree with this twaddle. You make this up to suit yourself, just as you make up a version of God to suit yourself. You are an idolater.
I thank The Lord He didn't use someone like you to put His Word to paper. It would be the most unreadable politically correct guff --- "sex trade worker"? You mean a harlot. Just say it. It's not the word that's shameful: it's what it describes that is shameful.
Ken · 631 weeks ago
It has generally been good, thought provoking discussions between you, me and Lori over the past year which we appreciate, even if we do disagree on many things related to life and godliness.
I can see your immediate sensitivity to Lori's use of the word hooker in her post, but she was referring to something the father said out of disgust for a school system and set of parents who would allow their daughters to be at school in sexually suggestive dress. This affects and potentially damages his sons... so he was upset.
You know Lori's writing and style by now enough to know that her intent is not to condemn others but to make her readers think, and thoughtfully consider how they might stand out from the world, and not be a part of it, especially in areas clearly delineated in the scriptures.
Your word view is not in keeping with traditional Christian values, nor conservative values. It is very surprising to me to hear that you see no loss of virginity, but purely a physical act when the scriptures are so clear on the subject. One almost has to see a different God of the Old Testament, a Paul who was only talking personally when he wrote, and a preference for "the words of Jesus alone" in order to redact enough of the Bible to come to such a conclusion.
There is great harm that comes from sex before marriage, and yet you are correct, that the blood of Jesus takes away all sin... yet it does not remove all psychological, spiritual, moral and physical consequences that comes from that one act. With most sin, some appear to have little immediate consequence, but the loss of one's virginity to a man she will not officially marry is usually not one of them.
One of the consequences is that the non-virgin moves on to other lovers and often ends up with another non-virgin in marriage. That one act is enough for a godly girl or guy who is saving her/himself for marriage to move on to another who was faithful. As one of my son's put it to me, "Dad, there are plenty of other Christian guys for a girl like that to marry. I would no be interested." I am curious if the statistics do not prove out that two virgins marrying have a much lower divorce rate.
It's not a question of condemning, but if you take the scriptures as written, the act of marriage is not the ceremony, or the "I do's," not even the paperwork from the state. The marriage becomes a marriage in that one physical act and just because the world sees it a just physical, is no reason for believers to throw out the beauty of marriage as God intended it to be... Man and woman becoming one and sharing a life together knowing that each of them has saved this precious gift for the other.
Forgiveness... grace... love .... by all means! We all need God's grace and we are all sinners, but we are not all sleeping around before marriage, nor are we all alcoholics, pedophiles, murderers, ... you get the point. All sin can be forgiven by the grace of the cross, but no sin is without consequence in the flesh, in the mind and in the spirit. Allow those who cherish staying pure to believe as the scriptures teach that it is special, because it truly is in God's eyes, and if nothing else, there is great reward for those who are willing to sell out for him in this area of their lives.
Lynnie · 627 weeks ago
mamamia · 627 weeks ago
virginiaknowles 18p · 627 weeks ago
Your readers might also like my post "My Thoughts on the Sexualization of the Church" here: http://watchtheshepherd.blogspot.com/2012/08/my-t...
Erica · 626 weeks ago
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