Thursday, August 28, 2014

Does God Care About Feminists' Accomplishments?


Does God care about the accomplishments of the feminist movement? I googled what the feminist movement accomplished and this is what I found ~

More women started careers instead of staying home with their children. In 1970, 8 percent of all medical school graduates and 5 percent of law school graduates were women. By 1998, those numbers had risen to 42 and 44 percent respectively. Women also made political gains as many ran for and were elected to office. {source}

I also know they helped abortion become legal, gave women the right to vote, and equal pay for equal work. Are these things important to God?

No, I think some of them are completely contrary to what God wants of women. He WANTS them staying home with their children. I doubt He cares about wives and mothers having careers and running for political office since almost all of the leadership positions held in the Bible were by men. I can't believe He would change His mind over the years because of the new {???} enlightenment.

I know He hates abortion. He hates the killing of the innocent. There is NO chance He supports abortion. What about equal pay for equal work? I am not sure about that since it is simply a result of women leaving their homes for careers and usually neglecting their husbands and homes. The right to vote? Not sure about that either since a wife's vote may cancel out her husband's vote who God has ordained as the head and leader of the home. {Please don't worry, feminists. I promise I will not try to take away your right to vote. Yes, I always vote and I vote exactly the same way that Ken does so I don't cancel out his vote.}

So does God care much about women? YES! He wants them to know how absolutely and completely loved they are by Him. He wants them to know He finds them worthy: worthy enough to send His only begotten Son to die for them; worthy enough to spend eternity with Him; worthy enough to be called His child; worthy enough to live mightily within them giving them power to live godly lives. He LOVES women. He knows the best place for the majority of women is in the home ministering to their husbands and children. He knows this has eternal significance.

I tried the career path. I tried ruling over my husband. I didn't like it at all. It produced chaos and turmoil in my life. I am thankful I get to be home. I am thankful I was the one who raised my children. I am so thankful I have learned to be a godly, submissive help meet to my husband. Life is SO much better God's ways. Try it. You may find the abundant blessings flowing from doing things God's ways also!

Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men;
 and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
I Corinthians 1:25

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I'm so curious about your voting the same ticket as Ken does. Is it part of being in submission to him? Or is it that you both hold very similar political views and therefore end up choosing the same candidates?
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Thanks for this article! I do have a comment on the voting and maybe others do too. What if your husband supports a candidate who is in favor of the things that God hates? Sometimes the economy gets so much attention that it can override the most important issues. Of course we should look to God to guide us when we vote. But I know of couples who have this going on. To me there is a definite conflict for the woman in submission to her husband who also wants to be in submission to God when she votes.
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"So God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them." Gen. 1:27 Males have been dominant since the beginning of time, because brute force ruled. And the human race has had war, after war, after war...........! It is the female who has the more nurturing nature, and seeks compromise and resolution. The delightful aspect of living in a country in which rights are protected is the freedom and opportunity to make choices, and couples who love each other and have common goals can certainly work together to achieve their goals. I see nothing in the life and ministry of Jesus that puts women in a subordinate position. Today the father is sometimes the house mom, and loves it. We have choices, and what works for one family doesn't work for another. We have choices!!!
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I tried being an "independent" feminist superwoman until my daughter was 2 and my son was 4. It all started in college in the late 60's. I was young and naive and was convinced feminism was a good thing. It didn't take me long to see how evil it was. Dating and courting went out the window as women began sleeping around, living with their "boyfriends", and participating in other kinds of promiscuity. I wasn't married, but this movement created chaos in my life even as a single woman. It garbled my worldview and I became hopelessly confused, trying to fit in and wanting to be accepted by my peers, knowing the whole time that this new "enlightened" way of living was wrong. Unfortunately, I didn't know Jesus back then. If I had understood His precepts, I would have lived according to them, and would have saved myself decades of heartache. My heart still aches for all young women who are deceived by the feminist philosophy and its lies. They will pay the price of their sin in heartache for decades to come, maybe even for the rest of their lives. My prayer for each one of them is that they will let go of Satan's empty promises and turn to Jesus, the Giver of Life, Joy, and Peace.
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Great article! I see that supporting my husband's choice of a vote is an opportunity to empower (help/'ezer') his position as husband. It doesn't strike me as less valuable in the least; but rather importantly necessary for unity. Just like Jesus saw an opportunity to support God's choice and plans ... He supported the unity of the trinity by dying to His own choice of, "... let this cup pass from me."
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I firmly believe a woman should have some form of education, because as much as God wants men to lead and fulfill their roles as husbands and fathers... Too often they don't. And ii believe it would be a sin for a woman to not be prepared to step up and lead her family, should the need arise, be it via her husband's failure or be it via a death or health loss in the family. There are no hard and fast rules.

But I also believe that while you have a supportive, leading husband, you should indeed be the SAHM and wife to your family. That is biblical. But always be prepared to fill the voids that come up in life. My husband has severe medical issues and as much as I love him and our family, I am planning to further educate myself so that, should the worst happen and I am left to be the provider, I will not be stuck in a horrible situation without the education and skills I need.
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Gently Led · 552 weeks ago

Thank you, Lori, it is always so helpful to read your posts. All of what you say sounds right to me.

Just got an email from a friend w/ 3 kids (5th - 8th grade) saying she's thinking about reentering the workforce b/c better sooner than later when she's older. She's a Bible-believing pastor's wife. I am always so sad when my friends (some of them) don't understand the value of a woman staying home with her family. So appreciate your words of wisdom! You help me get/stay centered on the truth.
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There is so much more to feminism than the things mentioned above. I would rather call it the women's rights movement since it gives women the rights God gave them as human beings. the right to not be raped, abused, and to own property when a husband can't be found. The women's right movement helps rescue women from being less than human. There are many men that are part of this movement as well. There are many countries were the men use religion to make a women cover completely up with garments. In Africa women's genitals are being cut off. It's the movement in the US that are sending people to put a stop to this and empower women to move towards freedom and a choice. There are also Christian organizations that are helping widows and women to make and sell arts to provide were men have failed. I think God weeps at the abuse women face at the hands of men and I also believe he gave us a unique wisdom that can be useful in politics and the world. To me it is not all extreme militant teachings. There is so much use for it when put to use in a Godly way.
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Hi Lori, I appreciate your blog and it has given me new biblical perspectives on the current condition of society. I have a question. What are your thoughts on women who have not yet found husbands and have to support themselves until they do? Because of the feminist movement, these women are able to go to college and have well paying jobs while they search for husbands instead of working low wage jobs or being a burden on others to support them in the meantime. I have some friends who have been praying for and searching for husbands since they became adults, and some have gotten married in their late 30's/early 40's, and some are still searching for a good, godly man. I'm sure that once they get married and have kids they will probably be stay at home moms, but in the meantime they have no choice but to support themselves, which they are able to do thanks to the feminist movement.
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While I believe there are clear roles as men and women, I also don't believe a woman should never have a 'higher education' or even vote just like her husband.
As for voting, how is it wrong to vote differently than your husband? God gave women brains, we have wisdom, and that doesn't always mean piggy-backing on everything our husband believes. I love my husband dearly and we actually DO vote the same, simply because we have the respect for life, our family and our country. If my husband thought differently than the Word, I would NOT VOTE LIKE HIM. As a believer, my allegiance stands with God, not solely to my husband. That does not mean I am rebelling against him.
As for education or working outside the home, I have 2 dear friends who both didn't work, didn't have an education past high school. The first one became a young widow with 6 children to raise. Even with life insurance, it is not enough to live on. She HAS to work. She is actually getting a degree that she can use in order to get a better paying job. And before anyone says, "well, the church should be taking care of her." WE are the church, are you forking money over to a family you know needs it or are you giving it to pastor and a 'church' so that THEY can take care of it? Are we willing to provide a decent lifestyle for these women and their children so that they don't have to work outside the home?
The second person was sentenced to the life of a single mother with 3 children to raise when her husband was sent to prison for 8 years. She regrets not being home with her children because she had to take the long hours to support her family. Had she had an education, she feels she could have gotten a better paying job that didn't require all of her energy, leaving next to nothing for her children. Amazingly, she was still able to homeschool her children most of the years. The other years, she had accepted the 'generosity' of a Christian school for giving her children scholarships...and then turned around and made them feel like a wellfare case. How sad.
I don't work outside the home, but I am productive IN my home. I make and sell things, I do child care, I save my husband money by being frugal. I do not have a higher education, simply because with 4 children and another on the way, time is an issue. We actually own our own business. If something were to happen that my husband could no longer do the work, it would be up to me to fill in. I see that as being a helpmeet. I hold to the same belief that a woman who CAN stay at home, should. Her family needs her. I teach my teenage daughter to get an education, but when you get married, your life is your family. But if she were to ever need to work, for unforeseen reasons, she should be well equipped.
The two things I get from this article is that women should vote like their husbands and they should not have a job or higher education.
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I don't understand why some women have babies only to put them in daycare...For some, working may be necessary though, but I think that living on one income is doable.
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Hosea 9:11-16 Hosea prays for God’s intervention. “Ephraim shall bring forth his children to the murderer. Give them, 0 Lord: what wilt thou give? Give them a miscarrying womb and dry breasts. . .Ephraim is smitten, their root is dried up, they shall bear no fruit: yea though they bring forth, yet will I slay even the beloved fruit of their womb.”

Hosea 13:16 Samaria shall become desolate; for she hath rebelled against her God: they shall fall by the sword: their infants shall be dashed in pieces, and their women with child shall be ripped up.

1 Samuel 15:3 Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.

He also slayed the first born males in Egypt. The king of Egypt was willing to let the Israelites go, but instead God kept hardening his heart just so he could inflict plagues and kill innocent children.

Does this sound like a God who is AGAINST abortion and slaughtering innocent children?
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So what if the husband is disabled and the wife isn't?
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Everytime women fight against you, I wonder to myself if they understand that this is YOUR blog, full of YOUR opinions. If someone doesn't like what you write, why can't they simply move along to the next blog? It just baffles me that we, as Christian women, will fight and disrespect each other over a difference in opinion.
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I really am glad that I have found your website, Lori, because it is very interesting and I appreciate your passion.

I believe that God cares most that women vote for Him.

As far as voting for elections, that is all societal. As a citizen of my country, who cares about the direction it moves in, for now and future generations, I am proud of my right to vote and I take my decisions very seriously. It it took a group of women to organize this right, then I am glad that they had the passion to do so.

Deborah was an important judge in the Bible. I don't know that God frowns upon women making the choice to have a career, so long as it is morally sound. Is it wrong for a female doctor to pursue medicine and save people's lives, and to still have kids, also? I think this topic is really a lot deepr then to say God doesn't want women to have careers.

The women's lib movements, three waves of, have achieved some importants goals. However, the ideology in some respects, also swung too far in directions particularly the '50's/60's movent, that have truly strained society. It is important to understand how each wave began and why. Who was behind it? What means were used to promote it and to whom? There is some very interesting info that can be found and it's important to know because it can really help put it all in better perspective.
Interestingly, every woman I know who was "of age" in the '60's era who might have been sucked up into the lib movement has told me that they were too busy to care for their kids...it was the younger people who were pulled in, which was the agenda to spread the propaganda.
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Excellent Lori.

I was just thinking (and talking) about this whole voting thing earlier this week.

Got a call from a lovely Christian friend. She wanted to know if I had yet voted, and to pick my brain about some of the local races. So I told her I hadn’t been following the races this year, and I wasn’t even sure I was going to vote.

She responded that as a woman (and a black woman no less!) that people had bled and died for my right to vote. I groaned a little and she asked what was up. So I told her the whole women’s suffrage thing isn’t my deal. Leaves me cold and isn’t gonna send me to the polls. She grew quiet for a second then asked what on earth I was talking about.

We’re new friends so I jokingly said to her, “When you love me enough that you won’t ditch me, I’ll buy you a cup of coffee and you can hear me out. But for the record, no one bled and died so women could get the vote.”

And I told her if I vote at all, it’ll be when the husband got off so that I could be sure to vote exactly as he does, and only as he does.

This should get interesting.

But again, you hit it out of the park with this one.

-Els
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I would have to respectfully disagree on the voting issue. I value my husband's opinions and we usually agree on issues and vote the same way. But when we occasionally see things differently, it's not a problem. He wants me to cast my vote according to my own conscience and using the brain God gave me. The only way I see where this could become a submission issue is if the husband ordered the wife to vote a certain way--but I can't imagine a mature, Godly Christian man treating his wife with so much pride and so little respect.
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herecomestheLIGHT · 551 weeks ago

Based on many of the posts here I can tell that many of the women who claim they are "submitting" are NOT really submitting at all.

To what degree does Christ expect the Church to submit to him?
Where do we draw the line on the Church submitting to Christ?

We expect the Church to submit to Christ IN EVERYTHING, correct? There is no line drawn correct?

So, should it be with wifely submission. There is no line drawn in "voting" or your so called "rights". You have no rights as a "true believer". You are either a slave to the Lord or a slave unto the Evil One. there is no in between. Let that sit on your heart for a minute.
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herecomestheLIGHT · 551 weeks ago

BTW, great post Lori
If you and your husband disagree on a political candidate then there are deeper issues. As believers we should be pro life, and vote accordingly. We have never voted for different candidates!

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