Saturday, August 23, 2014

My Grandma Refused To Vaccinate Her Children


Good Morning America reported that there is a measles outbreak. They said 95% of those getting measles were not vaccinated. {This was on the news several months ago when I wrote this post. Apparently it wasn't that big of a deal since it wasn't on the news for long. Another example of how the media greatly exaggerates things.} I tried finding the side effects of measles verses the side effects of the measles vaccination and it is difficult to find the side effects of the vaccination. Almost all of the websites are written by the drug companies, the government or by doctors, all who have a vested interest in the vaccinations. I have read that if you want to find the true side effects of vaccinations, you must read the insert that comes in the box of the vaccination, which most parents never see. Most would think twice if they knew the true, long-term side effects of all those vaccinations they are putting into their children. Besides, they want to give children 49 vaccinations before they are 6 years old!

Dr. Mercola wrote about the dangers of the measles vaccination HERE. The Healthy Home Economist wrote about many people being afraid of vaccinating their children HERE. This is what the CDC said are the symptoms of measles ~

A typical case of measles begins with mild to moderate fever, cough, runny nose, red eyes, and sore throat. Two or three days after symptoms begin, tiny white spots (Koplik’s spots) may appear inside the mouth.
Three to five days after the start of symptoms, a red or reddish-brown rash appears. The rash usually begins on a person’s face at the hairline and spreads downward to the neck, trunk, arms, legs, and feet. When the rash appears, a person’s fever may spike to more than 104 degrees Fahrenheit. After a few days, the fever subsides and the rash fades. {A fever is a body's way of fighting disease.}
All of my children had chickenpox. Yes, they were miserable for several days, but they survived. They have all had the flu and gotten through it. I believe we do what doctors tell us to do way too easily without researching exactly what is in the vaccinations and what the long term effects are. Now adults are getting chickenpox which is WAY more dangerous than children getting it and when you get a certain strain of the flu, chickenpox or measles, your body develops a natural immunity to them so you will never get them again.
My grandmother had seven children. She was born in the very early 1900s way before any studies on vaccinations had been done. She birthed all of her children in her home and didn't vaccinate any of them. She didn't want to put that "poison" into their bodies as she put it. She raised them on a lot of fruits and vegetables, meat, dairy, and eggs. She always had a large garden. Only one of the seven got cancer and that was the oldest son. He smoked and got lung cancer. All five daughters are in their 80s and early 90s and have done amazingly good health wise.
I am not telling you to vaccinate or not to vaccinate but do a lot of research before you put any vaccine or drug into your body. All drugs and vaccinations have side effects. Most healthy bodies can fight most diseases. I believe a healthy immune system is the key to good health. There is just too much autism, autoimmune diseases, and cancer to not make us leery of adding one more toxin to our children's bodies. HERE is another good article about our children's immune systems being overloaded with vaccinations. Be a wise parent and make decisions carefully, prayerfully, and with a lot of research.

If any of you lacks wisdom, let him ask God, 
who gives generously to all without reproach, 
and it will be given him.
James 1:5

***I realize a lot of you vaccinate your children. It is your choice to do so but allow those who choose not to vaccinate to do so without condemning or judging them. I tend to go against the flow with much of what society does, as you have noticed. I want to thoroughly research EVERYTHING before jumping headlong with what "everyone else is doing." 

***Remember, I'm NOT a doctor. I'm just a homemaker who loves to research 

natural cures and have found many that have worked for my family and me. Information I have given is for educational and informational purposes only and to motivate you to make your own health care and dietary decisions based upon your own research and in partnership with your health care provider. Any statements or claims about the possible health benefits conferred by any foods or supplements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration and are not intended to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent any disease. Nothing you read here should be relied upon to determine dietary changes, a medical diagnosis or course of treatment.

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Remember the polio outbreak in Ontario? Right in our neighbourhood. One church in that neighbourhood was against vaccinations. Polio is a very serious disease and several of the children did get polio and now have physical difficulties. An open talk with the family doctor is probably a good way to know what you should do.
Dear Lori,

I have been enjoying your writing ministry for a while now and this article is spot on - I am a doctor turned true help-meet to my husband raising daughters. We have chosen prayerfully not to vaccinate our children. Academically it makes no sense to me to artificailly stimulate the immune system before its time and reckless mass vaccination does not care about the individual souls that are afflicted when the programme goes wrong. In this age of sin, the care of parents, stable homelife and marriage and good nutrition is being abandoned in favour of any option that will relieve people of their own sovereignty. Much like 'contraception' abortion (and infact the latest culture medium for seasonal vaccines is aborted fetus cells). Its is time for the saints who fear Yahweh and are ruled by His Son Jesus to actually follow Him and Him alone. Too many in the church are drifting on the counsel of the wicked - standing with sinners and sitting right down with scorners on these issues and others like homeschooling and man's headship in the home. There is much too much fear of man and medicine I found to my great repentance - truly is the sorcery of this age.

Keep up the great work!
Dear Lori
When my brothers and I were growing up we didn't have central heating in our home, just a coal fire which heated the water too...........
People were shocked that we didn't have full heating in every room but it did us no harm at all. We grew up very strong and hardy and everyone commented how healthy we were. We played in the dirt and mixed freely with other children and got the usual childhood ailments which we shook off easily. I remember we all had chickenpox at the same time (my poor Mum nursed us all through it). Mum made all our meals from scratch and a meal out was extremely rare, maybe when we were guests at a wedding or special party. When people see the three of us together now still they always comment that we look young for our age!.
Our parents and grandparents knew a thing or two didn't they?!
Blessings
Helen UK
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Thank you for your perspective on this subject.
I really am not quite sure where I stand on this issue. My children were vaccinated and now in their mid-twenties appear to have no ill affects, although I do know that some problems can take longer to manifest. I was vaccinated as a child, as well. However, I just keep thinking of a woman I know who was never vaccinated, and contracted measles during pregnancy. Her daughter was born with mental retardation and mild deafness. The daughter, now in her mid-forties, has and never will live independently and the parents worry what will happen when they are no longer around. There are no guarantees, but could this situation have been prevented if the woman had been vaccinated? I just don't know the answers. I can easily see the arguments on both sides. It takes research and soul searching.
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I sometimes feel like the only reason I give my kids any vaccines at all is just to not seem too "out there". So I don't give most of them. But I have given them a few. I did do one shot of MMR when the kids were school-age. And not because I'm even particularly worried about Measles. Stupid huh? I wanted the kids to get chickenpox naturally but my daughter is almost 10 and still hasn't gotten it. So I'll be forced to vaccinate her just because it is more dangerous in the teen/adult years.
I personally am against vaccines after our 4th baby (who is a twin) had horrible reactions to the DTAP. I begged my husband to not allow anymore vaccinations for our 5 children. I even refused to take them to their well visits because I didn't want to get them vaccinated. Needless to say it caused a lot of strife and tension in our marriage. To the point where we were sleeping in separate rooms.

Finally my husband sat me down and said he would never knowingly harm his children and I had to trust him and my place was to submit to his authority. I cried. I begged. I prayed. I submitted. I can truthfully say handing my baby girl over to my husband at her well visit so he could hold her for her shots was the hardest thing I have ever done in my life. We both feel so strongly about this subject and both of us feel like our way is the right way.

What's a wife to do? Fight for what I believe in and ruin our marriage or submit and still have my husband by my side? I obviously chose my marriage.

I've been called a doormat for this. I've been told I "selfishly" put my husband above our children. I've been called an unfit mother for allowing the vaccinations when in reality, I truly had no choice. I was told it would be better to be divorced than to put dangerous chemicals in my children and how normal wives would not stand for this.

I've prayed for my husband to have a change of heart. I've prayed for peace. I've prayed for a miracle. None of it has happened yet, 18 months later. And yet, I still choose to submit. Because that is what the Bible teaches. And because that is what you, and Cabinetman and Peacefulwife have encouraged me to do. When I feel like submission is too hard I read your posts. Unfortunately this particular post just put me back on the defensive and my gut instinct is to start a fight with my husband all over again on this issue.

My point, we vaccinate. Because my husband chooses to do so. And I stand by his side. Now I need to go study submission some more because I feel a burning desire to cancel our twins checkup and stand my ground. Lol

May I ask, what would the advice from a Titus 2 woman be to me? When all other moms are down my throat and ridiculing me, would a Titus 2 woman encourage me in my submission? Or not? Where does the line get drawn? Is there a line?
4 replies · active 552 weeks ago
my children had their vaccines when they were growing up, I was too ignorant at the time. (this was in the 80's. ) My middle son who was 12 contracted whooping cough from a child at our church. We were in quarantine for 10 days, had the CDC call us for info. I was stunned to think that the vaccine he had didn't help. The CDC told me they only last a few years and then you are susceptible. I do not know if that is true today -this was 20 some years ago.
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I grew up with a mother who was very against vaccines. I have heard every argument there is against vaccines. My problem is that I am a biologist and every site I have ever read against vaccines is so ignorant of basic biology that it makes them all look like quacks. Still, with our firstborn, I wanted to study the issue in depth for myself. After doing a lot of looking on both sides of the issue, I am left with the conclusion that vaccines do work and are generally not dangerous. Some children do have reactions to them, so parents should be aware of the potential danger and watch their children closely. There is also the possibility that certain children may be more sensitive to certain preservatives in them, especially when very young. There is no evidence, however, that vaccines cause autism or SIDS directly. If anything, I suspect that these diseases are a combination of several factors, one of which MAY be environmental toxins (which is why smoking increases the risk of SIDS in children, for example). The tiny dose of preservatives in a vaccine is so small that it would have a very minor effect, even in children who are more sensitive. Receiving a vaccine is roughly equivalent to drinking one diet soda for "bad stuff" in it. It's not going to do any harm to a child unless they have an underlying problem like an allergy, even if it isn't the healthiest stuff ever. And the benefits of vaccines cannot be denied. Vaccine-preventable diseases carry some very significant risks, including death. It really comes down to a risk-benefit analysis. Do the risks of vaccines outweigh the risks of the disease? There are risks to both vaccinating and not vaccinating. Both risks are fairly small in our country since we don't have a lot of disease, so it can be difficult to determine which risk is greater. We decided to vaccinate, but to do it on a delayed schedule just in case of a sensitivity in a young baby. Since I stay home with my girls and they don't have a lot of contact with sick people, their risk of getting sick was low and risks of sensitivity to vaccines are a little higher when they're younger. But when they reached 9 months or so and the risks of vaccinating were lower due to more mature systems and the risks of disease grew due to playing more with other children, we vaccinated them.
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Susan Taft · 553 weeks ago

I think the only thing we can do is go to God and wait for his leading. Vaccines may be wrong for some children and right for others - only God knows.

I do know that the polio vaccine was considered a miracle by all of the world because children were being saved from that crippling and sometimes deadly disease. But simple childhood diseases like mumps, measles,etc. Most of my generation survived just fine.
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Thank you for this article. It's very informative and I enjoyed reading the comments.
Wish I knew about this when my girls were small. I didn't so I listened to everything their pediatrist said. Hope they will always be healthy as they are now...and my grandgirls too.
Very interesting Lori.
FABBY
Like some of the other mothers have commented, this is such a tough topic for me. We ultimately have vaccinated, but have done so on a very delayed and selective schedule and after researching them as much as we can. We pray that they will be healthy, but ultimately know that all things are in God's hands anyway.
I think this point is moot. The real question is not vaccines, but which ones. Polio, a very debilitating disease, is almost eradicated worldwide. Meningococcal disease, aka meningitis, diphtheria, smallpox, and others are deadly and should not be taken lightly. I have yet to figure out which vaccine side effects everyone screams about are more important than deafness, disabled, or death. If we had 30% of the USA population contracting polio, meningitis, diphtheria, etc, with 100% possibility that you could get it too, I sure you would be whistling another tune. I think arguments lumping chicken pox with polio is foolish.

With diseases like chicken pox, I screaming with you. I was riding with a 17 year old when we went by a shingles vaccine sign. I told her that shingles is adult chicken pox. I told her that I don't have to worry about shingles because I had chicken pox, but she will. I think this vaccine will cause a shingles epidemic and her generation will be the first.

During the swine flu, which all 5 of us had to some degree, I nursed everyone well. H1N1 is just a nasty flu virus that, if it doesn't kill you (which it can), you can recover with rest. Many mothers I knew were running around trying to get the limited vaccines. One mother told me she couldn't stay home and nurse 3 children to health due to work. I have always thought that many childhood vaccines are required because no one can stay home to let the child be sick. We have schedules to keep, after all.

If we are going to argue, let's argue about what is. A parent needs to stay home with sick children, and we, as a society, are not designed like that.
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Why was my post removed? It did not come down on those who choose to not immunize. I shared my grandmother's story of losing several children to diphtheria and polio. There was no reason to remove my reply.
When l entered the hospital environment shortly after nursing school l had mandatory testing for hep B. Since l had no immunity l had to get the series of 3 shots before l was allowed to work. Also, shingles only appears in those who have already had chicken pox.

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