Thursday, October 29, 2015

Sex, Romance, Lies and Responsibility


{Written by Ken}

Recently Lori showed me a top Christian psychologist's blog post giving an excellent summary of the ideals for romance and sex within a godly Christian marriage. God’s ideal for sex within a Christian marriage is that it would be reasonable in what is done in the marriage bed, spicy hot at times, but remain within God’s clear instructions where both partners feel safe and secure as they show their vulnerability and love to each other. When married couples have a great sex life it often becomes the glue that bonds their hearts and minds with a deep and abiding intimacy. And of course, God knew all of this when he created this wonderful gift for humankind.

The issue I have with a discussion on sex is that it often gets quickly unbiblical when ideals of romance are given by well-intentioned Christian relationship coaches, yet it no longer matches up with plain teaching of the scriptures. Much of what they write aims for an idealistic romantic love, but fails to keep it real to life, or the Bible. Most of us don’t have the time, energy, or inclination to be able to create a romantic mood every time we want sex. Schedules have to be met, stresses dealt with, kids are crying, pots and pans have to be cleaned, and not everyone has a budget for date night three times a week. Does God's Word say anything about the need to create romance before sex? Certainly I am not against this ideal in any way, but when Christian relationship coaches sound like it is a prerequisite to love making it makes me write to try "to speak the truth in love."  

Imagine the apostle Paul teaching about marriage oneness and throwing in a few verses on how a husband needs to help create the right mood so that sex always comes within the context of romance, affection and love. No, the apostle instead said it very plainly, knowing that most of mankind will never experience one date night in their lifetime, let alone hundreds of them. Straight shooting Paul just says it like it is under the inspiration of God Himself, keeping it real by saying very plainly:

The husband must fulfill his duty to his wife, and likewise also the wife to her husband.  The wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does; and likewise also the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does.  Stop depriving one another, except by agreement for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer, and come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control. {I Corinthians 7:3-5}

Whoa!  That does not sound like any modern-day relationship teaching whatsoever! Didn’t God know that women would be given freedom over their own bodies, not just to withhold sex from their husbands when they don’t feel like it, but to have sex outside of marriage at 15 and run and get an abortion without their parents even knowing about it? 

If God says your body is not your own when it comes to sex with your spouse it’s because He knows what is best for you and your marriage. Just like all things in life, when we decide we know better than God we start going way off track and mess it all up.  Instead, if we will trust that God says what He means and means what He says, we can experience many of His greatest blessings.

Ok, I can hear the detractors now. “What about the wife who is married to a jerk, or the wife who it hurts when she has sex? What about when a wife has a headache, or she just prefers to only have sex once a week, or once a month? What about the poor girl who had some sort of sexual interferences that make it so she doesn’t enjoy sex much?” All part of the exceptions intended to throw up a smoke screen over the rule that, "your body is not yours alone."

I am not saying that there is never a reason a spouse can't say, "Please not today." and expect some understanding when such times happen. I have been married to a wife who has probably had more sick or pain-filled days than pain-free in our 35 years of marriage. Patience, compassion and understanding must be the watch words of every loving husband. What I am saying is that our society has filled our modern minds with many lies, and it is hard to cut through them all, yet there is one way to do so!  Trust God at His Word and obey Him so you may see what blessings He will give you by your obedience to the duty of love He commands.

Lori and I were laughing over an interaction about the wife who might ration sex out to her husband. “Honey, I only want sex twice a month and you seem to want it every day, so let’s compromise at once a week. Ok?” “Umm…” mumbles the husband, “can we maybe compromise at twice a week?”

Our laughter came when we changed the illustration to something similar. “Honey, as the main bread winner in the family, I think we should only eat once a day. That is going to save on the budget and keep us from being overweight. I mean think about, aren’t we going to love eating when we ration it, instead of eating all the time?” “Umm…” mumbles the wife, “can we maybe compromise at eating twice a day?”

Regular and frequent sex is a basic bodily need for most men and some women. Can it be controlled and should it?  You bet, but God in His wisdom tells us not to not deprive our spouse, which probably means when they ask we should not be the one deciding when we are going to have sex. How many times have we heard how about tomorrow and yet tomorrow comes and goes and no fulfillment of the promise? Something else came up again. 

When your spouse gives you that smile, wink, or the nod, or gently takes your hand and starts up to the bedroom, what are we supposed to do? Joyfully follow knowing that it is for our own good even when we don’t feel like it. How often has your “don’t feel like it” turned into the best choice you made that day? A lot. Science tells us of many fabulous benefits to a healthy sex life, and psychology concurs. Regular sex is great medicine for the heart, mind, body and marriage.  

If there are compromises in sex, it should not be with the frequency, but instead with the timing, and the time spent. Quick sex may not be as enjoyable as having long romantic date nights, followed by candlelight and burning incense, with thirty minutes of teasing and foreplay, but it completely fulfills God’s admonition. Of course, God knows that a woman is a crock pot and a man a microwave when it comes to sex. We are built differently, and when a wife desires romantic crockpot sex a husband should try to oblige, just as she should meet his need for frequency. Instant coffee can taste really good, compared to no coffee at all.

How frequent? Guess who God says gets to decide? And trust me, one of the main reasons why many husbands seem like they want sex every day is because many wives are not readily available to them. Rationed sex will keep a husband hungry just as rationed food will keep a stomach hungry. Once availability is freely given, most husbands are happy with every other day, or less. But if you married a spouse who wants the intimacy of sex almost every day, find a way to meet that need with them, instead of having them looking for love in all the wrong places. Self-control, or any lack thereof, is on them, but when you can help by fulfilling your God given role, be there for them.

If you don’t enjoy sex that often, that’s OK. Try to learn to enjoy having the person you say you love the most in the whole world enjoy you, and the body God gave to you share with him freely as a gift to your marriage. After all, there are many responsibilities we don’t enjoy doing in life, but we sure love the benefits that come when we are faithful to our duties.

Even during times when our marriage was struggling for intimacy, we generally had a healthy sex life because we knew this important principle of the scriptures. One early morning Lori hopped back in bed and said to me, “I was just listening to this couple on Focus on the Family and they said it only takes five minutes a day to please your man. I can give you five minutes so long as it is in the mornings.” Wow!  That was music to my ears.

Remember, this was long before the arguing stopped and the desire to be submissive found its way into Lori’s heart. This was pure obedience to the Word, coupled with love and understanding, which may have become the glue that helped hold a difficult marriage together. We still did date nights, but the regular sex was one of the healthiest gifts that a wife can give to a stressed out husband who is battling the world to feed his family and get them the very best things of life.

In conclusion, I am all for romantic, spicy hot, and some reasonable fantasy fulfilling sex, but when one spouse wants more frequency then such weekly or monthly events can provide, it is time to develop a new approach to spicy hot sex that takes five minutes or less; maybe ten some days. Figure out how to please your spouse by keeping the love flame lit all day long by creating a fun sexual tension that wants to be fulfilled by both spouses regularly. Fun, intimate, private sexual teasing throughout the day can keep the flames blazing, so long warm up times are unnecessary. Why is it that affairs often take minutes, but relationship coaches keep perpetuating this idea that loving husbands must continually romance their wives to put them in the mood for sex; and of course the best romantic move is doing the dishes? An idealism that often leads to disappointments instead of the teaching of God's Word. 

If you want to keep your spouse happy do just a few simple things: Smile at them when they enter the room; be kind to them; keep arguing to a minimum, and have a lifelong passionate affair with the one you married. Begin with these things and build towards an intimate oneflesh marriage that honors the Lord and honors your spouse. After all, your body is not your own.

Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God, and that you are not your own? For you have been bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body.
1 Corinthians 6:19-20

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Melissa M. · 491 weeks ago

Something I try to tell myself when I'm not in the mood is "By serving my husband, I'm serving God". My husband is a totally reasonable man so I try to meet his needs even when desire still doesn't come.

I'm thankful to you guys, Lori & Ken, for your ministry to us. Now that I have sat under Lori's teaching for 2-3 years I hope that I am glorifying God more through my marriage and being a blessing in service to my husband
1 reply · active 491 weeks ago
"Why is it that affairs often take minutes, but relationship coaches keep perpetuating this idea that loving husbands must continually romance their wives to put them in the mood for sex; and of course the best romantic move is doing the dishes? "

This is definitely a good point. Women don't fantasize about their husbands doing dishes and rocking babies, if so, books like fifty shades of grey would not have taken the world by storm.

This notion is spearheaded by men who fell for the feminist lie as well. I imagine 200 years ago when women freely gave sex to their husbands, it was their brawn and lingering sweat and dirt on them that turned their wives on. If a man grabbed the baby and put him down, that would have been appreciated in a massive way but it does not add to the wife's desire. I would go as far as to say that it might make the man look emastulated in a woman's eyes if he did these things too terribly much. A man is sexy, and that will never change, therefore manly things are sexy to women and that also will never change.

" a woman is a crock pot and a man a microwave "

I respectfully disagree with this. It contradicts your other assertion. An adulteress will be naked in five minutes, she doesn't need the man to rub her shoulders and light candles first. Most affairs happen with men who are careless and passive and it is a sexy contrast compared to their husbands who are subservient and smothering.

The truth is women do not understand their own desires at all and men have bought into the notion that doing chores and rubbing feet will get them sex because they are desperate for sex now that women can shamelessly deny their husbands and that is what they are told from childhood on up.

I do not know the answer for men and I do not claim to but I do know that women respond in a sexual way to masculinity, not femininity and women's desires are quickly awakened, same as men. Affairs are our best proof of this as you say, affairs happen in minutes.
7 replies · active 491 weeks ago
Sex is an important part of marriage..a foundational piece of the contract! As with most anything else, it's a heart issue. Are we, as wives, going to enjoy sex, or are we going to decide we don't like it..are too tired..don't want to bother, etc.

While affairs are never the "fault" of the other spouse, but rather the one who chooses to cheat, why can't we continue to be our spouses lover? Why can't we be their "affair" and escape? Go the extra mile. Try to be attractive to your spouse daily. Not just at intimate times. If he finds you "hot" anytime he sees you, he's going to want you. I can honestly say, my husband has eyes and desires for me, after all of these years and all of these children. I make myself available, and I have not let myself become frumpy. Likewise, he takes care of himself and desires to please and fulfill me. God's plan works!

Another issue that really can put a wedge between husband and wife is birth control. God's Word instructs us to become one flesh, and to welcome children. It's the second cornerstone and purpose for marriage, after partnership. If we truly become one, and submit to God and wife submits to husband, being open to potential pregnancy is a HUGE difference than preventing.

When my husband and I used to use birth control, our sex was only about gratification, with denying the secondary purpose of God's created sex. Reproduction! Once we became open to life, we are truly united. 100% nothing in between us, our relationship, or our faith that God is in control. It's truly a different sexual experience.

May we all learn, as wives, to fulfill our husbands needs. Be their lover! May we all try our best every day to be attractive for them, to please them in all ways that glorify God. It truly can be the most wonderful part of marriage!
2 replies · active 490 weeks ago
I do not dispute that biologically women and men are different. That is absolutely true. That wasn't my point though. The notion that women desire men more after they spend several minutes or hours caressing, massaging or kissing their wives is what I disagree with. I believe women become aroused quickly just like men not slowly like crockpots but I do agree that they take longer before orgasm.

I doubt that groupies who get a chance to go back stage and sleep with their favorite famous rock star are worried about if they will get massages and have an orgasm, they are quickly turned on by the man and will willingly have sex instantly with him. That was my point. Of course we all love getting massages and when our husbands do dishes or help with the kids but these things are not slowly warming up a woman for sex, they are just nice things that women appreciate.
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HappyHomemaker · 491 weeks ago

One of the better things I have heard someone say about marriage is "Never stop dating your husband". Now at the time, it sounded stupid to me, but now I know better. When we were dating, I could not wait to see him each day. I greeted him with a kiss and of course, my makeup was done and hair was fixed. I wanted to be presentable to him and I wanted him to think I was pretty. Somewhere down the road, I got complacent and started thinking--Ah he loves me for me, so why bother? But then through books and conversations with other Godly women I realized that in essence I was saying to him (with my actions) you used to be important enough to get prettied up for, but now I've got you so I don't have to try anymore. That was so wrong and sinful. Now, I am not saying there aren't days and sometimes even several in a row that he may come home to a wife that isn't prettied up, but as a general rule, I try to schedule time to get fixed up before he gets home. I also flirt with my husband and the most exciting thing is he flirts back. That wonderful exciting feeling you have when first married doesn't have to go away. It can stay as long as you take the time. I look at it this way, is your marriage worth fighting for and worth putting in the effort to nurture? Absolutely it is!! I have had a couple friends think they were ready for divorce, I always tell them the same thing----"You know when you were first together, you loved him and were glad to see him and enjoyed just being with him. It was exciting and fun." They say yes, but that was long ago and I tell them, so go find it again. Remember the reasons you fell in love with him, forget about all the negative and remember WHY you loved him and go find it. Flirt with him again. Text him that you are thinking about him. We can always find an excuse to quit trying, but how much more joy you will have if you don't give up. It may be hard, but it's worth it. (Sorry, I don't know why I typed all this, I guess I got carried away)
7 replies · active 491 weeks ago
Great points to think about. I try to also make myself even more available during times my husband is stressed. Sometimes he's so busy he doesn't understand or notice my gestures I literally pull him aside and remind him that I'm there for him. I make the meals he likes, give him back massages and lay out towels and clothes for his showers. He has told me, sometimes not until days later if he is really busy, how much he enjoys and appreciates it, and says thank you. Although I feel a little silly with him saying thank you, because isn't that what I'm supposed to do? I love being there for him. If I'm not in the mood, I remind myself why I married him and how he is a good man that loves the Lord and his family and how he sacrifices a lot for us and how hard he works. That said, he is also loving and reasonable and understands during times I physically don't feel well, though thankfully that isn't often at all. We try and go on dates, but during busy times and with a little one at home it just doesn't happen often. This is such a good reminder for me. Thank you.
1 reply · active 491 weeks ago
I really believe that the reason women seemingly are "ready for sex" quicker with an affair or around someone they are obsessed with is just because they've been thinking about them in that context so much leading up to it that they are already "warmed up" because of those sexual thoughts going round and round so much prior to being with them. I believe that the mind is every bit as powerful for women when it comes to sex as it is for men. Those who saved themselves for their wedding night probably didn't have any trouble climaxing quickly (unless they were in pain, of course) because they were thinking about it and looking forward to it their whole wedding day! What happens over time, however, is that wives get busy thinking about things that need to be done or replay their irritation with their husband over and over so much that it would take at least 15 minutes on a high setting to turn their mind around so that their body can respond physically.

I absolutely believe that women are still crock pots (even women who have affairs). The magic of "eagerness" is all in what a wife chooses to think about her husband throughout the day and especially right before she sees him. I've had days where I was pushing the replay button of something my husband said over and over and making myself downright dislike him. Then the Lord convinced me, I repented, and chose to spend the 30 minutes before I was going to see him thinking about the things I love about him and all the physical aspects I find sexy. Then, instead, I chose to replay in my mind the details of many great times we've had sexually, and by the time he was home, I wanted him to bad I could have beat the 5 minute record!

We wives would do well to intentionally spend time thinking about our husbands sexually before we see them on the bedroom and I think, in most cases, the time will be extremely enjoyable for both parties.
4 replies · active 491 weeks ago
I wish there had been a ministry like this to women at the time I married my bride. The majority of our 35 years have been without sexual intimacy and not by my choice. I have frequently been made to feel that I am the cause of her sexual refusals. She is a Christian but sometimes she seems to ignore parts of the Word that don't line up with her thinking. It is frustrating to say the least.
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Is it ever OK to say not tonight. My husband has walked away from our marriage and 4 children and placed the blame completely on me. His only reason is that I made him feel rejected because when he came home at 3 or 4 in the morning drunk, I did not want to be intimate. Was I disobeying scripture ??
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Looking for advice: when my wife and I first married 15 years ago, she gave up working and 1 son and 2 daughters soon followed. She stayed home with the children and took care of our home. She was a Godly submissive wife. Things were going great, until 5 years ago, when her parents encouraged and paid for her to finish her master's degree. Now she works 30 hours a week, earns almost as much as I do, and insisted on having a egalitarian marriage. Our sex life went from mostly whenever I desired, to once a week, and only on the weekend. She has started adopting more and more feminist ideas. Which she fills our daughter's heads with.

I guess I'm at a loss. I feel powerless! I've asked and demanded that she quit working. She refuses. I've stopped helping with the housework, she hired a cleaning lady. I've asked our pastor for his advice. He sided with my wife and I came out looking crazy and controlling. I'm at a loss. I want my old wife back.
3 replies · active 491 weeks ago
Do you know what will keep you ALWAYS in the mood for sex? Practicing NFP and periods of abstinence in your marriage. When you cannot indulge in sex anytime you feel like it, it becomes a most treasured and anticipated gift, just as God intended it to be!
6 replies · active 491 weeks ago
Ken (and Lori too)
thank you so much for tackling this topic, its a difficult one as many people feel unable to seek christian counsel about what they feel is a 'delicate/private matter.

bless you both as always!
Helen UK
1 reply · active 491 weeks ago
There is also a really pervasive myth in the Christian world. "Date night". A few months ago, I contributed to a discussion on a Christian forum where I was basically ran off with a pitch fork, because I was making the point that having dates outside the home, is NOT what keeps a marriage spicy, on track, committed, etc.

It's like anything else today..we feel we need to be "entertained" to make us happy.

My point was that of course dates are very fun, and beneficial. However, some of us would rather be home most of the time, AND, that sex is a bigger component, and that you do more for a marriage, by DAILY making an effort to be attracted, sexual, flirtatious, etc. Many of us find it more of a turn on to do these things throughout the day and evening, than to make some planned and concerted big deal to go out somewhere and "do what the singles do", only to return to home a bit tired from these things.

We much rather put the children to bed (all of our children have early bed times, and the older have early "time to go to your room" times many nights of the week, as we believe this is healthy and allows us our marital time to talk, be intimate, have a nice snack, watch a movie, etc).

It's a cultural myth that the kids run the house so we must "escape" to somewhere else to have fun. In my home, our bedroom is a sanctuary for us, and aside from little nurslings that come back in to snuggle when they are young, it is a kid-free zone. It's our intimate space, and one we wouldn't trade for spending $$ to go out in order to try to fabricate a dating relationship.

We wanted to be married, not dating!
1 reply · active 491 weeks ago
Good post, and the comments from Younggodlywomen and TJFW were excellent as well.

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