Thursday, December 3, 2015

Did Adam Sin Before He Ate the Apple?

{written by Ken}

I have never really thought of it before, but perhaps Adam’s first sin was not eating the fruit that Eve gave to him. According to God’s Word, Adam’s first sin was because you have listened to the voice of your wife, and have eaten from the tree about which I commanded you” (Gen. 3:17).  Is there actually a sin that Adam committed before the apple ever reached his lips? Was it the sin of listening to his wife over God’s Word? Certainly eating the apple was the final outcome of the sin, but what other sins preceded the actual breaking of God’s clear command not to eat of the fruit of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil? 

It does make one wonder what would have happened if Adam had trusted God at His Word and turned Eve in to God without eating the forbidden fruit. “Woman, what have you done? Come here right now and let us go speak to our Father about this.”  “God, this woman you gave me ate of the apple that we told her not to eat, because you had forbidden us at the risk of death. What shall I do with her now?”

This would have surely been the correct response of obedience to God and His Word. To exercise leadership and discipline by turning Eve over to God, or perhaps taking matters into His own hands and dealing with her so that she would not eat the apple again. Perhaps a warning? Perhaps some form of discipline?

“Eve, I am so disappointed in you that you would go against what I specifically instructed you that God had told me. I have no idea what God is going to do with you when he arrives for our evening walk, but you go sit in our cave and wait until I tell you to come out. It is possible that God cannot even see your face anymore, but let me go beg His forgiveness on your behalf and plead for your life, that we both may be spared.”

Now that would have been leadership. Did not God call on Adam to rule over all the earth and this included leading his helper? Instead, Adam capitulates his leadership role to follow the lead of his wife. Yes, Eve leads Adam into sin.

Now fast forward two thousand years and we find Abraham, the father of a new nation to come, is once again committing the same sin of Adam as he hearkens to his wife’s voice and goes in and sleeps with Hagar, who bears a son of promise. What was Abraham’s sin? He did not trust God that His promise of the seed of the Messiah would come through Sarah. Abraham should have said, “Sarah, you are sinning by telling me to go sleep with Hagar. You know full well that God has said that my seed which will bless the earth will come through you. Stop deceiving me and trust God at His Word.”

One has to wonder why men who are leaders like Abraham, with all his great leadership qualities, would give up their leadership to go against what they know God has said  and  listen to their wives? Why do Christian husbands throughout the centuries, and now around the modern world, do exactly the same thing as they listen to their wives, even knowing what God has said. Then discovering far too frequently the turmoil that comes from the sin of abdication of leadership. Is it a desire to keep the peace with one's wife at almost any cost? Or could it be the desire for uninterrupted regular sex? Why? The apple didn't tempt him, the Devil didn't tempt him, but Adam falls for his wife's temptation.

Think about this with me as I am processing it myself. Why is it that I spent the first seven years of marriage wanting to lead my wife and marriage, but regularly capitulating to my wife's seeming "needs" or wiser counsel? I can say that I wanted to keep the peace; that I felt as a Christian husband I was to love my wife, and that meant doing my best to keep the marriage happy. But now I wonder how much of my unwillingness to stand up to my wife when she was difficult came from a desire to try to keep harmony between us. How much was a failed attempt at intimacy done her ways. Intimacy and sex are powerful drugs for men, and with it we are happy, and without it we are very unhappy. We would do almost anything for a wife, including giving up our God given responsibility to lead her, to insure that our flow of harmony and intimacy remains uninterrupted. We truly do not want to be alone. 

Tell me ladies, you already know this don’t you?  Here I am in my 35th year of marriage and I am just now realizing how much I was willing to give up just to try to connect with the lovely creature of a wife. For me, and many other Christian men, sex is only the consummation of what we really long for in our marriages. To know fully, and be completely known, by our wives. This is what we long for, a full and complete intimacy where hearts, minds, souls and bodies all are united as oneflesh with our spouse. Praise the Lord that we are experiencing this now for the last ten years as we hearken to the voice of our God instead of the lies of this world. 

I wonder if Adam did not find himself in exactly the same predicament. Here he had beside him Eve, a most marvelous creature just like him, yet a perfect counterpart with a gorgeous smile, soft curves and a warmth that could drive the father of all mankind wild just thinking about it.  I wonder if he was thinking,

“What would I do without my Eve?! Who would I talk with and lie down to her warmth and comfort at night? Who would make my heart and mind explode each time I see her beautiful body and feel her womanly caresses? She has sinned, and now I must choose between my adorable wife or God's command.”

There is little doubt that Adam’s choice to eat the forbidden fruit was a willful act. The scriptures say he was not deceived, although some speculate that he may not have known the apple he was given came from the forbidden tree. God’s Word is clear that it is through Adam that sin enters the world, not through Eve. Adam was the representative head of mankind, not Eve. Adam was responsible to lead Eve and he failed, and paid the ultimate price. We have no way of knowing what the world might look like today if Adam had listened to God over his wife. But we do know that it was a grievous sin for him not to trust God at His Word. Why they did not trust God may be directly related to a desire for peace, sex, or intimacy, which has implications for today’s Christian marriages.

Wives, if you are withholding peace or sex from your husband as a manipulation tool to be able to control him so as to tempt him to abdicate his role as leader in your marriage, then be careful to look at the results of the past. Both Adam and Abraham may be perfect examples of what the power of peace, intimacy and sex has over a man. If those examples are not enough, let us turn to Sampson and King David, King Solomon, and others, who all found themselves worshiping intimacy with a woman over obedience to their God. It is almost every man’s battle which makes it incumbent upon a wife to be a true helper to her man in this area, and give to him what God says is good and healthy within marriage; to allow him by your obedience to God's Word to grab a hold of his leadership role and become all that God intends him to be.

Christian men, we have to begin to see the biblical patterns shown by our fathers of old that got them into trouble. No matter how much we desire peace, and the intimacy of knowing and being fully known by our wives, we must lead to truly achieve all that God wants for our lives and marriages. Our wives are not to be blamed, like Adam blamed Eve, for handing us a second best, or easy option, so we might abdicate our leadership.  God's word to Adam makes it clear that we are not to listen to our wives' voices or actions if they are usurping our God given responsibilities. Did God not say, "The husband is head of his wife and wives should submit in everything to their husbands?" Let's stop being embarrassed about this God given leadership to a flawed man like you and me, and instead learn to stand up for right and wrong in our homes. 

In our marriage, we found a surprising thing, that when I started calling Lori out in gentle, but specific ways, for the areas where she was being difficult and unsubmissive, God worked to open up her eyes to her God given responsibilities. Now Lori and I are finding the marriage we both have longed for, a full and complete intimacy; no secrets, no unmet longings and desires, for we know each other fully, and all is fully known and accepted in love. We are becoming one, just as Jesus and the Father are one. This is the secret to a truly biblical marriage to simply hearken to God's Word.

Be careful not to allow the Serpent of Old to rob your marriage of this intimacy that is given to you by God's design. But it only comes to those who will stop eating the forbidden fruit of the lies of this modern age of individualism in marriage. To be truly free means to walk within God’s user’s manual of truth, as it is the Truth that sets us free to live exactly as God has created us to be; one with Him and one with each other.

Genesis 2:23-25

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I hope you will be able to pass this knowledge on to the younger men. Men have continually abdicated their role and capitulated to women on so many fronts. Women's suffrage, Women's Rights, Women's Rights to Choose, Preachers scared to preach women's roles, etc. etc. Of course women should always be treated with respect and dignity and love but I agree with you on your thoughts. The state of our Union is due (in my mind) entirely on the fact that women were deceived and the men (who weren't deceived) abdicated. It is difficult to find a man in today's world willing to stand up and be a man. Most of them are too scared to say what needs to be said.

I am very thankful my husband has always been a very loving, kind, gentleman who has no problem fulfilling his role as the leader of our family. But with that said, I realize he is a rarity and I believe it is because men have for so long abdicated their roles that men these days don't know that they even have a role and feel guilty for trying to fulfill it.
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Thank you for your comment, Michelle. You are so right that both men and women have abdicated their God ordained roles and it has caused havoc in our nation. It is the children who suffer the most, unfortunately.
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Lady Virtue · 486 weeks ago

I echo Lori's thanks for your comment; it's very insightful and (sadly) true.
There is a twin master thread (as it were), running from Genesis to Revelation: 1) the WALK (on the narrow) 2) The Voice of God vs men/women. Enoch was one of first to have his feet on the path. "And Enoch walked with God" Genesis 5:24.
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Yes, Mark, the narrow path is not the easy one but it is the only one that leads to life. We must be diligent to be worthy of our calling as John MacArthur preached today on gty.org.
LOVE Ken's article today!!! I just wanted to point out that the fruit Adam ate wasn't called an apple. Our Bible school teachers always made a point in telling us this, I don't know if they were concerned that apples were getting a bad rap. ;) In any case I thought I'd let you know.
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Thank you, Tahirah! He changed it to "forbidden fruit" in parts of the post but most recognize it as being an apple that Eve ate. I don't think it matters much in the end if it was an apple, peach or whatever since nobody knows!
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HappyHomemaker · 486 weeks ago

Loved reading this! I am very thankful that I am married to a man who has never been afraid of what I might do if I didn't get my way. I do indeed realize he is a rarity. I just hope our son takes after his daddy.
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You are married to a good man, HappyHomemaker. Your sons will hopefully take after their dad since they've been modeled correct manhood.
Great comments Ken and not only a necessary topic to bring up and start digesting but a complicated one to wrap our arms around [as I suspect is evidenced by only one comment 6 hrs after release]. A husband longing for his wife in any scriptural fashion [mind, body, spirit, soul] is no more than Christ longing for intimacy with His church. The only thing I would disagree on is that sex is not a drug – it is the very necessary sacrament of the marriage, much like church communion with Christ. Can we remember Him too often with communion or know Him too much or take it all too lightly? Sex with our spouse actually releases us from the drug of the world’s POV.
And here is a wild one to throw in the mix, to meditate on….1 Tim 2:14 “And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.” I like Tmichelle1 comments. I go one step further: my observation is that a revival in the church – men, in mass, returning to their scriptural roles, is limited by the stranglehold of, for lack of better identification, women’s equality – so deeply engrained in the church – has placed on them. As MacArthur has said “(no subject, that of equality,) is being attacked more viciously.” And that was a 1993 sermon; how much more now? And that’s why Lori’s blog remains so important.
Blessings on you two as you approach 35 years, I believe later this month, for standing faithful through thick and thin to champion, by your actions - your very belief in God’s Word, the ‘marriage supper of the Lamb’ – Christ to His church! 35 more!
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Thank you, Dave. We very much appreciate your support. I just saw this on my newsfeed; "US Department of Defense: Pentagon Says That It Will Open All Combat Roles in Military to Women. 'There will be no exceptions,' Defense Secretary Ash Carter said about the Army, Navy, Air Force and Special Operations Command agreeing to open all combat positions to qualified women." It's tragic what feminism has wrought upon this nation. Even the military kowtows to them knowing that having women in the military weakens our military, thus the safety of our nation. It's heartbreaking.
Wow, powerful stuff today! I have considered before that one of Adam's sin's was standing silently by while his wife was being tempted, before she had actually taken the bite there was a brief window of opportunity for Adam to step in and protect Eve and instead he was passive. But I haven't really thought about that brief moment in time when Eve had partaken, but Adam hadn't. So interesting to wonder what would have happened!

On an unrelated note, to Lori and any other mamas out there. Lori I know you have mentioned in the past the you are a big fan of sleep training babies, are there any good books you would recommend on the subject? I know there are many variations and techniques out there. I am wanting to put together a baby gift of a "Sleepless Nights Survival Kit" including herbal tea, a gel eye cooling mask, under eye cream, a nightlight, and hopefully a book which will save the new mama's sanity by helping her sleep train baby. Any book suggestions (or suggestions for other things mama's have found helpful to include in the gift) would be appreciated!
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I'm sorry, Mrs. M, but I don't know of any books about it. I do believe in sleep training them as soon as possible since I believe it makes them better sleepers in the long run and mommy needs her sleep badly.
This is interesting speculation, but I don't think I can agree with the parts about Adam being motivated by a desire for peace and intimacy with his wife to sin. Everything in the garden up until that point would've been perfect-including their marriage. Adam couldn't have known that peace and intimacy would be threatened until he actually sinned. There is nothing in the account that suggests Eve threatened or manipulated him-he willfully and deliberately ate that fruit and then blamed God and Eve.
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You are correct that we have nothing in the account that would show anything but peace and harmony between Adam and Eve, and no manipulation. I would suggest that at this point it may not be manipulation that pushes a husband to desire to maintain intimacy, but the thought of the loss of intimacy itself. In other words, many wives may indeed be receptive at first to a husband's appeals if done kindly, and it is over time that some wives learn they can manipulate a husband. It is the husband who may have unrealistic fears not knowing that his wife deep down desires his leadership.

Adam would have known that God might separate him from his bride because of her sin and it was in recognizing that she had indeed eaten of the fruit that he may have eaten too in a sense "protect her" and protect their relationship. Of course we can only wonder what the true story is, but we can see clearly that Adam abdicated his leadership role by listening to his wife, instead of God. He had some reason(s) why. The fruit did not tempt him, the devil did not, but his wife did. The fruit could not have looked better in her hand than on the try... he had to have been doing it for what thought was her sake. And thus we ponder as to why if not peace and/or intimacy?
no one....especially men can explain why sex (physical connection with a woman's body) is all consuming to a man other than to say that it fulfills him physically and mentally as he releases his sperm. (he may say different) Why did Adam listen to his wife? Eve was taken from Adam as a rib(bone of his bone and flesh of his flesh).....and together with dust....God created her. In essence she was Adam. Why did he listen to HER instead of God? Because he made a choice between himself (thru Eve) and his creator God. It was the first adultery and man took on the attributes of lucifer who is the god of lust. What is the payoff for men to experience physical connection with a woman (sex).....it is the ultimate of self worship! Man cannot imagine not enjoying pleasure (sex) and woman gives him that. At no time during the physical connection (especially during the exhilaration) does man or woman think on God or offer him pure worship. (what is on the mind during this experience? it's not God. It is on self) Yet God in HIs mercy and loving kindness has taken broken man and has used broken man (and woman) to bring about his end....which is to accomplish his plan that humans will come to him willingly to worship him for an eternity in all purity . There will be no marriage or gender in heaven. Why? Because we will be satisfied in the presence of God as he once planned at the beginning. It's all about Him!
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There will be gender in heaven. Christ's resurrected body was identifiable as male. He still had his resurrection wounds. He was still a man. So our resurrected bodies will retain their maleness and femaleness.

"So also is the resurrection of the dead. It is sown a perishable body, it is raised an imperishable body; 43 it is sown in dishonor, it is raised in glory; it is sown in weakness, it is raised in power; 44 it is sown a natural body, it is raised a spiritual body. If there is a natural body, there is also a spiritual body," (1 Cor. 15:42-44).
Correct Emily. We will be known as who we are, and our identity will still be male or female from this life. What that looks like in the next, we do not know for sure, but it will be perfect, whatever God has for us.
I get what you are saying Christian and to some degree agree, but feel you may overstate some aspects of the discussion. Sex is not per se a spiritual exercise, but it is to be no less spiritually meaningful than eating or drinking and whatever we do, let us do it for the glory of God. God is not any less pleased or gloried by sex, and is highly honored when sex is restricted to the marriage bed. And any man worth is salt knows that sex is not just about his pleasure, but also, or more importantly, pleasing his wife.

You certainly have it right that in eternity it is all about Him, but if I know my God well, He will find a way to insure that he keeps serving the creature He chooses to love. His immutable love demands that He pleases his children, but in turn, we will have learned to love him much more fully, and to honor his love.
Ken (and Lori!)

Great and thought provoking post, taking sometime to absorb it but just wanted to thank you both as ever for your faithful witness.
Blessings as ever
Helen UK
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Thanks so much Helen!
Wow! That's a great point Ken. Doesn't it say somewhere in the bible that to be tempted isn't sin, it's only when we let it take root and act on it that it becomes sin. Something I will definitely be thinking about.
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Yes, James 1:14-15 says, "But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it brings forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, brings forth death."

I think we will get to heaven and discover that some things we thought were sins were only temptations if we did not act upon them. I wonder if too many do not give way too much credit to sins in a thought life, when those are not yet sins, but strong temptations. That certainly would have been the case with OT sins, but Jesus does put a different spin on things when he says, "So a man thinks in his heart, so is he" and a man looks on a woman with lust he commits adultery. Is this hyperbole to make his point, or is some thoughts sin and others temptations and only the Lord can know between the two?

Regardless, thank you Lord for no longer keeping tack of my sins and forgiving them all on the cross, even before I commit them!
But we have to ask for Christ's forgiveness, of course
I think its about lost opportunities. How many times you wish you said something, anything, rather than be silent. When the opportunity is in front of us, we must step forward.

One neighbor and I were struggling with our marriages at the same time. She kept going on and on, while I was trying to find reasons and think of solutions. I invited her to church. Her head snapped up, and she asked why she would do that. She rejected me, rarely spoke to me afterwards, but I stabbed at the opportunity. Better to be rejected than to always wish.

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