Thursday, January 8, 2015

Losing Our Children to the World


Although I {Micheal Pearl} am greatly concerned for these first generation homeschool kids {second generation Christians}, it is the third generation Christians now being born that really cause me to tremble. I look at these beautiful young children and wonder how many of them are going to reach maturity in purity. 

Pornography will very likely get over half of them. Their minds and thought life will be molded by ever worsening flashing digital media. Their relaxed, pleasure-seeking, second-generation Christian parents take it all for granted. At least their parents {first generation Christians} came out of a life of sin and were somewhat on guard against evil. They worshipped God with a memory of the mire from which they were redeemed. But the new parents have never been to war with the Devil, never been wounded in battle, and do not know the peril that awaits their children. These “greenhouse” Christian parents think that because it worked out well for their parents, it will by default work out well for them. After all, they are good Christian parents; why shouldn’t their kids turn out to be radiant believers as well? Because those lovely children are carriers of a genetic predisposition to a disease called sin. And historically, third generation Christians are religious, but lost.

I’ve likely alarmed you, and you are now asking, “What can I do to guarantee that my children (or my grandchildren) become real, born-again Christians?” Go back and walk in the old paths with them. “Thus saith the LORD, Stand ye in the ways, and see, and ask for the old paths, where is the good way, and walk therein, and ye shall find rest for your souls” {Jeremiah 6:16}. First and foremost, you must become a Spirit-filled believer, daily rejoicing in the blessing of God, giving praise and honor to him in the presence of your children. You must manifest the fruits of the Spirit {Galatians 5:22-23}. Your children must see your compassion and justice. They must see your abhorrence of sin. 

But most importantly of all, they must be raised on the Bible stories, not children’s Bible stories, but real adult Bible stories of law, sin, judgment, repentance, faith, heaven and hell. Reality. Don’t raise your children to live in a make-believe world…teach them TRUTH. Then they will walk in truth, and you will “have no greater joy than to hear that [your] children walk in truth” {3 John 4}, instead of grief. Instill a Biblical reality. You cannot expect one or two hours at church each week to feed their spirits any more than you would trust two meals per week to feed their bodies. They will become what you daily feed them. Give them one hour of TV per day, followed by one hour of Bible teaching, or visa versa, it doesn’t matter. You should expect the TV worldview to win. It is a better communicator than you are.

 Bring them up in the nurture and admonition of the Lord.
Ephesians 6:4

You can read all of it HERE.

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That post (and the original) really gave me pause to think. I am guilty of feeling that my children are blessed to be out of the school system and it's influences- and they are/we are.
But I am reminded from this that I do "rest" on this and let my guard down, especially with tv and Computer games.
Thank you for the post and the "food for thought".
Blessings
Heidi
1 reply · active 533 weeks ago
You're welcome, Heidi. Yes, we must always be on guard since the devil roams around like a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour. NOT our children!!!
Hi Lori! I read this interesting,( long) post by Michael. I think I tend to be a bit more "Calvanist" while he is "Armenian". I will explain a bit since I am barely familiar with those terms : I tend to think that while, of course; teaching our children Bible stories, taking them to church, being an example of Christ to them are our responsibilities, there is still no way we can "guarantee" that they become "real, born again Christians". I believe God has to be the One to save my children, as I believe He CHOSE me! (Remember where Jesus said "you did not choose Me, but I CHOSE you..." I also think Michael tends to "lean unto his own understanding" rather than "trusting in God with all our hearts...acknowledging Him in all our ways..." All I know is I know many Christians & every.single.one.of.them has some issue that I could judge them on (just like my children). But I really do believe God sees the heart while man judges by the outside. Some things we simply have to let God teach them...like whether they should have children, marry their boyfriends or girlfriends, attend church, stop smoking or drinking,etc. Those things do not necessarily mean He is not going to save them. It does mean God is going to teach them some hard lessons & discipline in the process of "saving them". I think Michael tends to give a "formula" to "save your kids", but he doesn't acknowledge God's power in the process....is that Armenian? (I know it is Baptist! lol....that's why I am NOT Baptist!) I am TRUSTING IN GOD"S LOVE TO SAVE MY CHILDREN! You know I love you Lori! Prayers, in Jesus, Cynthia
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How would you explain these verses and many like them, Cynthia, "The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing for any to perish but for ALL to come to repentance." {2 Peter 3:9} "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that WHOSOEVER believes on Him should not perish but have everlasting life." {John 3:16} He also wouldn't have given us so many verses on how we should raise our children if we don't have a major influence in their lives to believe. I don't call myself a Calvinist, Baptist, or anything other than a follower of Jesus. We can't put God in a box. No one can prove if we choose Christ, He chooses us, or they work together. You can argue both positions from Scripture. All I know is that it was my responsibility as a parent to make sure my children knew God's Word and that we protected them from evil when they were growing up. You just keep praying, dear sister. Be like the widow who never gives up. God hears your prayers!
I am Baptist and certainly don't believe in a formula to save my kids. :) All the power and glory goes to our God who seeks those that are lost. He was looking for me, when I wasn't looking for Him.
I tend to lean towards Cynthia's understanding of the way salvation works, but I still homeschool my children, teach them Scripture, guard what goes into their eyes and ears. These two things (being earnest and acknowledging what is beyond our control) certainly aren't mutually exclusive.

I thought what she was trying to say is that we need to be careful of thinking we can save our children through the earnestness of our works. What if (heaven forbid!) they do go astray for a season, despite our best efforts? Then what? Is that then the parents' fault? Not necessarily. We have to remember that God is sovereign and our children have free will.

In any event, it was a good article by Mr. Pearl because those of us who are building the hedge need to be reminded that not all evil is external. That being born in sin and shaped in iniquity, our children are not immune form temptation. A good word.

-Els
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Although, the Bible does say that the purpose of marriage is to raise godly offspring and the majority of Christians were raised in godly homes. You're right though, we can't save our children but we sure can point them in the right direction. There definitely aren't any guarantees that our children will choose to follow Jesus and I know Michael Pearl believes this but there are many things parents can do by raising them up in the nurture and the admonition of the Lord.
I really appreciated this article...Lori, there is one thing, especially when my kids were young and even now as they are older. that I really struggle with. That is the t.v. influence. My husband is a believer, but has had different standards than I have as to the influence of the television. He would allow the kids to watch a lot of t.v. and often not age appropriate shows---at least in my opinion. I had such a hard time with this and still do at times. In the past, I have removed my children from the room, but now have chosen not to overstep his authority on this and trust the Lord with the outcome. I do, though, feel like my children are and have been highly influenced by what they seen....etc. Two of my sons have struggled with pornography and they will tell you that their appetite began with the television. My husband says that it is a heart issue, and they have to choose what they allow their minds to dwell on. To me there is so much on there that I usually choose not to watch much at all, leaving my teenagers and my husband in the tv room most of the evening. What do you think it looks like to be submissive to our husbands in this area? Do I just keep letting it go and hope and pray that they will choose on their own to do the right thing, trusting the Lord in this? Sadly, it has been my greatest battle over our 27years of marriage. I have not said anything to him for years about this, but it grieves my heart....especially seeing my sons spend so much time now watching.
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Let it go and hope and pray. Your husband is the designated leader of the home. They all know your wishes so there is nothing you can do except to continue to show them the love and joy of the Lord!
If he is a Christian can Kate bring this issue up with the Pastor?
Yes, Lori, in my heart I know that is what I need to continue to do. I am just finding it especially hard this evening and needed to make sure this wasn't something that I needed to talk to him about. I was in there for a few minutes ago and saw that they were watching a show that had a lady with a very low cut, tight dress on, acting seductively. It's just hard understanding how watching these things can be ok....
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Kate, I am re-reading Debi Pearls book and she was just talking about this very thing. Yes, we can be our husbands spiritual conscience, but in the end it does not work. Believe me , I know. I hounded my poor husband for years concerning our sons and their behavior but it did not do any good.Yes your husband should know better and he will suffer for it as your sons go down a long hard road. I am certain if you just trust God in this situation and pray as hard as you can and be joyful and loving to your husband, God will take care of it. Will be praying. He is faithful.
Becky
I have found Michael Pearl's child-rearing advice so very helpful. I have read this article before but it's been a while. Thanks for the reminder!
There is no doubt that God chooses who will be saved (election), but I believe that it is a a wrong asumption to think that his choices are in any way arbitray. We know that his choices are based on his fore-knowledge:

"For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren." (Romans 8:29).

We do not know the mechanisms of God's election and thus we should not be presumptuous to assume that what we do has no effect on His choice, as it surely does. God relates to mankind by promises. He promises something to us and when we reach for those promises with true faith He grants them. One of those promises is:

'Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it." (Proverbs 22:6)

The regularity by which this promise comes true to faithful parents is proof that God chose our children based most likely on His foreknowledge of our faithfulness and His devine need to aways keep His Word. He desires a family of God and is actively blessing His family.

A good possibility is that before the foundation of the earth God did choose all who would choose Christ. In other words, God declares that all who are "in Christ will be saved" so the election is complete. All that happens on earth is that those who are brought to Christ by their parents, or others, are the chosen ones. The choosing was done long ago, but it was not arbitrary, it was based on whom God dd foreknow, who is Christ Jesus. Jesus was the Chosen One of God, and not all people can choose to be in Christ and be known by God, or choose not to be known by God. But all who are in Christ belong to Him.

The bottom line is that we are to trust God on His promises and train our children in the Lord. To rest in a presumption that God does not make His choice based a parent's faithfulness is impossibl eto know. That mechanism of choice was certainly not random, and salvation is said to be available to all people. So parents may play a far greater role in the future salvation of the children than many Calvinist leaning believers may understand.

Only God can give a choice to all to believe yet know who will choose before time begins. And yet, we are called to be faithful to our calling as parents and rest in HIs promises: "But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him." (Heb 11:6)
If I may ask.... I know that when you become a Christian and Christ enters your heart and we turn from sin, we are assured eternal life. What has been scaring me lately is this - I am normally very diligent with prayer, Bible study, church attendance/involvement, etc and really feel that I've grown and learned a lot since becoming a Christian. But there are times when shamefully I go a few days or even more without prayer or Bible reading, then I feel grouchy and tend to fall back in to some of my old ways. Not always necessarily sinning, but definately not doing my best. Then I feel guilty and obligated to ask Christ again to enter my heart and forgive me... I worry about committing sins I'm not even aware of it maybe forgetting to ask forgiveness from some... If I do, am I still assured to enter heaven? I pray for forgiveness daily even for just feeling impatient with others, or unmotivated, etc. I know my areas of weakness and have really improved a lot. . I just read the book, "23 minutes in Hell", and it terrified me. I am so scared of hell...I almost wish judgement day would come sooner than later, because I am worried of backsliding in the meantime and possibly even losing my salvation somehow... I was raised as a strict Catholic, then joined my husband's reformed church, so I still have that mentaity if needing to earn my salvation that I just can't seem to let go if. Sorry if this is off-topic. I'm just wondering if there is something I should be doing differently? My husband says not to worry, and just keep praying. But I am looking for a more in-depth answer than that.
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No, Katie, you don't have to keep asking Christ to come into your heart. It would be like a guest that is staying with you and kept coming to your front door to see if they could come in. The key to staying close to the Lord is abiding in Him. We do this through consistent time in the Word and in prayer. The Bible tells us we are transformed by the renewing of our mind in God's Truth. You cannot be transformed if you aren't in His Word consistently. Just as an apple tree can't produce apples by trying harder, we don't become like Jesus by trying harder but by abiding in the Vine and taking nourishment from Him as an apple tree simply has to abide, taking nourishment up from its roots. Study Romans 6-8 and I encourage you to listen to Michael Pearl's teaching of it to learn all about being a new creature IN Christ. Here is the link ~ http://nogreaterjoy.org/audio/romans-audio/?utm_s...
This is my first post but I have been following this blog for awhile. I've always been scared to post, but I don't no what to do. I like the advise you give so here goes. We have been married for 12 years and have nine children. We came to the Lord in our fith year of marriage and we have our ups and downs. He says he is a stronger believer than me because I don't always submit. He's raised his hand to me and the kids a couple of times but I quiet things down by forgiving him. And I tell the kids to do it to. Well, a couple of weeks ago his business partner came to the house when he wasn't here and asked me if my husband seemed to have more money than usual. I thought is was a odd question and told him no. He just said not to worry about him asking it and please don't tell my husband. I didn't. But here is my question, he does seem to have more money, he bought himself two new rifles last fall-he said for hunting. Then at Christmas(which we only celebrate by having a party for Jesus) he bought himself a brand new set of hunting gear from Goodells. I think the kids were pretty hurt. It was hard to see him so happy when they felt sad. He said he deserved it because he is in charge of all of are lives and it tires him. What should I do? I'm a little scared of him but I'm also scared that he is stealing from his partner and if he's found out we could loose our income. I have prayed and prayed about this and my stomach hurts all the time. Do you think I should talk to him about it? Maybe not mention that his partner came by, but ask how he can afford to spend his money this way?
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Krista, Can you email me privately at laalex2@aol.com? I prefer to mentor women privately rather than in public where everyone can read. Thank you.
Sometimes I wish we would see the follow-up to these issues that some women have written to you and then you ask them to email you. I read it with intense interest as some of the situations apply to me. Would love for you to maybe post how things all turn out.
Krista, I will tackle your situation with some advice, so long as you recognize that there is no way to know your full situation from a comment, so please use discretion as to how you use the advice.

First, I don't know what "raised his hand to me" means exactly, but certainly you should not be living in fear. Find an older godly woman you can trust to confide in and seek counsel. Discuss with your husband the need to insure that no threat of hitting exists unless it is in the context of appropriately spanking the children on the rear end. No threat of "raising a hand" should ever exist in Christian home, so ask your husband if he will set that standard. If he refuses, ask him to go with you to see another godly couple or the pastor about it because it scares you and the kids, and living in fear that he might strike you is not good for the relationship.

As for the potential stealing from his boss, you need to tread very carefully here, making sure that you do not end up falsely accusing you husband for something he did not do. You should be able to figure out if more money is going through your bank account than should be. The items you mention are not so expensive that most wage earners cannot afford them if they are good savers, or are putting things on the credit cards. Look at his financials, bank account, credit card bills, etc. and evaluate things on your own if you have access to them.

If you suspect that he may be stealing, then you should ask him about it. Tell him that his boss came over and asked about his spending habits. It is quite possible this will resolve itself as someone will be caught at the workplace as the boss is looking into it. At some point, sooner rather than later, you will need to tell him that his boss came over.

Remember, all are considered innocent until proven guilty in our country, so we must be very careful with false accusations. That said, the wedge that is created now with this person planting the idea in your mind is not healthy. You will need to address it with your husband and have things resolved. Submission does not mean you bury your head in the sand when it comes to your spouse. You are entitled to ask questions and make requests, even while you are to be submissive to him. This can be accomplished in a caring and non-accusatory way while still discovering what you need to know.

After you have seen a godly woman that you trust, seek her counsel, and make sure it matches up with seeking the best interest of your husband with submission. Then set a time that you will talk to your husband about the situation. Ask your new counselor/friend to please call you 30-60 minutes later to be sure all is OK. If you do not answer ask her to call again in 15 minutes. Tell your husband the boss came by and that you told him that you were not spending more money. Apologize for listening to the boss when he asked you not to say something to him about his visit, but that you feared for his job, but you should have been upfront with your husband.

Gauge his response. If he becomes quite angry and difficult, don't press things. Let him settle down. At some point you will need to decide if he is trustworthy or not. To not trust your husband is a huge relationship breaker, BUT if a husband is indeed untrustworthy, no amount of trusting him will change that. You will need to rebuild the trust, all the while being apologetic that this person has placed the idea in your mind. That part is not your fault and it is the reality of the situation that your husband must now deal with.
To Krista cont.,
If you do not have full access to verify the credit card statements and bank account, ask that this be granted to you. If it were me I would perhaps be upset that my wife does not know me well enough by now to trust me, but because I have nothing to hide from her she would be given access to all my financial records to look at them forever (which she already has.) In your case, a husband cannot refuse your request without suffering the consequences that you will not completely trust him.

Lastly, you are not responsible for turning your husband in for the crime. Our laws specifically and purposefully protect spouses from even testifying against each other. You may wish to seek a Christian attorney for counsel on this matter as the attorney can advise you, but he cannot tell others what you have confided in him. Stealing is certainly a big sin, but again, if anyone must give a person the benefit of the doubt it must be a spouse. But this does not mean turning a blind eye. If indeed it appears he is stealing you now know that your husband has a significant character flaw and sin that does not match up with Christ and godliness. You will need to be more wary, but still submissive, while insuring your protection and that of the kids. Only you, with those who you confide in as counselors, can coach you what to do if the situation proves true.

Exposing things to the light with your husband is the way to get healing, but one can really damage a marriage by false accusations, or believing false accusations. You are in a tough situation, but it is not your fault. Trust that the Lord is in this with you, and surround yourself with godly, discreet counselors who can support and advise you. Make wise and godly decisions, while still practicing godly, wifely submission and see what the Lord has in store for your husband and marriage.
Did I post that in the right place? I'm really sorry if I didn't.
I'm sorry I can't email you. We have the same email and he would read it. He wouldn't read here it's to womany.
My husband won't let me look at our finances. He says it's his business cause he makes the money and I'm afraid he would get real mad if I asked. It is his business partner not his boss who came by. They own a carpet cleaning business and I guess he was in charge of the money but I'm not positive. We live from one paycheck to the next with nine kids so there is no way he even could of bought the guns. I am trying to figure out who I could talk to about this. No way could it be our pastor he'd tell my husband.
We go to a very small church and I guess I could ask one of the older women what I should do. I will pray about it. There is a woman down the street who I like but I don't know if she is a godly woman I think she goes to a cathlic church. She has invited me come with her but I don't know. She is awful nice though. I think she sences my troubles.
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Krista,

Trust the Lord that he will give you one or two women to talk to this week about your concerns. You need someone local to discuss your concerns with. Do you not have any family in the area? You do not have to be specific on the potential issues in anyway that paints your husband at wrong when you don't know if he is or not. But you can share with them that you have something you need to talk to him about and that you are afraid he may become quite difficult when you do bring it up, so you need some help or protection.

It is impossible for anyone offerring advice on this over the Internet. There are Christian counseling centers, or counselors in churches. Find one to confide in and seek wise counsel. You have nine children with this man? I can't imagine any wife who has had nine children being afraid of her husband. But as you are, this needs to be resolved so ask him if he will go to a counselor with you to discuss your marriage as you are afraid of him and his reactions at times. Don't stay in this condition, but before you tell him anything make sure you have a couple of friends who will check in on you regularly and support you. Move things forward to a place of trust and no fear.

God does not want you living in fear, but Satan does. You should be talking to your husband about them, and if you cannot do that without fear, find a local counselor to coach you. You need help that goes beyond Internet advice from people who do not know you or have all the story.

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