Monday, March 7, 2016

To Love Your Husband ~ Chapter Sixteen


The first time I read this chapter about loving our husband, I thought it would be about submitting to him and obeying him but no, it was all about sex. Why is this considered loving our husbands? Why is sex so important to them? I will never forget giving the book Every Man's Battle to a friend of mine who had a son in high school, like my boys were at the time. I thought it would be good for her son to read. A few weeks later when I saw her, she said, "That book makes it seem that every man is a pervert!" She thought this since it clearly explained a man's great desire and need for frequent sex.

Debi gave a picture of a man who was very hungry and how he will scour the kitchen looking for food to satisfy his hunger. Sex is the same way for them. No matter how much I love  and respect her feelings and needs, I still have this overwhelming sexual need that drives me until it is satisfied...Married men need frequent sex just as much as they need food. "I want to crawl into bed at night with a woman who is glad I am her man, and I want to make love every few days so I don't have to think about the girls at work."* Yes, men are visual and this shouldn't offend you. This is the way God made them. It doesn't mean they shouldn't have self-control, but it is better for you to be the one continually satisfying this need so he won't be like a hungry man concerning sex. Don't keep him hungry.

Please read this chapter in Debi's book, women. I would type out the whole thing if I could type that long! I mentor women who hate sex, never give their husbands sex, don't move during sex, use any excuse to avoid it, etc. Did you know that all of these are sin? Did you know that when you do this you are blaspheming the Word of God since God commands that you love your husband and this it the highest form of love towards your husband? Women have all types of excuses. Hey, I'm way past menopause at 57 years old and I could have all types of excuses with all of my health problems, but I don't because I love Ken and want to please him in this area. I want him to be happy.

 Many women hate to think that their husband has so little lack of self-control, but it is  God's Word that commands we don't refuse each other in this area so our husband won't be tempted or feel unloved by the woman who should love him the most {1 Corinthians 7: 3-5}. When a wife refuses her husband, her disinterest in him sexually is a reflection of her heart, and he knows it. Her husband knows in his spirit that all her excuses are just that: excuses for not wanting him. When a woman just allows, cooperates, and tolerates, it leaves a man feeling sick at heart.*

Man is driven to succeed. Hormones drive him to be the best at work, to drive aggressively, to build the best buildings {praise God for men!}, or write a musical piece. But his most pressing drive is to be a successful lover.* When a woman refuses to please her man in this area, she is disobeying God's clearly stated Word . The gravity of his wife's sin is staggering. She has NO FEAR of God Almighty. She has blasphemed the Word of God with her selfishness, thinking only of her own needs and not loving her husband. Never, never, never be guilty of such a grave sin.*

In closing, women ask me what is acceptable in the marriage bed. Everything is acceptable unless it clearly violates God's Word such as porn or anything harmful such as anal sex. Anal sex is a homosexual act and no normal man or woman desires this. The use of pornography has increased this abomination. It is a filthy practice and medically dangerous.* I had no idea married couples even wanted to have anal sex until a few years ago! I agree with the Pearls that any woman has a right to not obey her husband in this area if he asks but in everything else, cheerfully and willingly participate.

There be three things which are too wonderful for me, yea, four which I know not: The way of an eagle in the air; the way of a serpent upon a rock; the way of a ship in the midst of the sea; and the way of a man with a maid.
Proverbs 30:18, 19

*Quotes taken from the book.

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Any wisdom for a woman who has more desire than her husband? I've tried to talk with him about it, but it just ended up in a big argument, so I just stay quiet and try to be peaceful and submit. It breaks my heart. He refuses to see a doc or anything. It's been over a year, and before that was over a year as well. There is no medical issue as far as I can tell. Everything works fine (sorry if that is TMI). I am thinking of leaving. I read something from a pastor who said it was the opposite end of adultry because you are not keeping your marriage vows and therefore grounds for divorce.
3 replies · active 333 weeks ago
But his most pressing drive is to be a successful lover.* When a woman refuses to please her man in this area, she is disobeying God's clearly stated Word .

I'm not sure that this is Biblical. Sexual response is involuntary. While she can join him in bed and be open to having a good experience how much sexual pleasure she receives isn't something that either of them can necessarily control. If she has not denied him sex then she is not in sin. Not being turned on by him isn't a sin but he can't be a successful lover if she isn't turned on by him.
4 replies · active 472 weeks ago
....do i dare say anything? Sexual intimacy is one thing, but as you age, there may be health issues to take into account, sex is not everything in a marriage. It never should be. Thinking a husband and wife relationship is all about being physical will cost you happiness and probably your marriage. You had best be friends that share a common love for one another that has nothing to do with sexual intercourse. Giving to one another with attention and genuine love is a top priority.
2 replies · active 472 weeks ago
Lol. My husband tells me I suck at being a homemaker and struggle with my kids but I excell in this area. And I'm a good wife. (Working on the other areas though). If anybody is going to keep my man drained and satisfied in this area it's gonna be me. No one else will have that privilege but me. I feel sad when wives joke about refusing their men or when the wive refuses to wear. Sexy underwear when her husband asks because she is so disgusted with her own looks or the idea. And. Then they whine when their husband strays or looks at other women. If anyone is going to satisfy your man, make sure it's you and not some hussy at the office or in a magazine or computer.

M cooper, pray about this area in your life and your husbands life. And make sure that when you do get a chance to come together with him that you do what you can to knock his socks off so he will want to come back for more. It may be a hormonal imbalance or anything. Hope you resolve this area. :-)
1 reply · active 472 weeks ago
When my husband was going through a particularly busy time at work and was just physically and mentally exhausted for the first time I experienced what it was like to be on the other end, wanting sex but he was just too tired. I have to say, even though I knew it was nothing personal, being rejected, however gently it was done, sure felt personal.

It gave me a lot more compassion for him when he is ready to go and I am not. I had always made it a point to say no very rarely, but after that I pretty much never said no. (I would if I was sick or something, but he is kind and doesn't ask if he knows I am not feeling well.)

Another thing I have realized is that my attitude really does make a huge difference. Sex is very mental for women, so even if physically I'm not really ready to go, if I make an effort mentally to get into it (and even say a quick silent prayer asking God to help me love my husband in this way) then 9 times out of 10 after a few minutes I am just as into it as him. He knows if I am just going through the motions, and he really wants it to be mutually enjoyable, he doesn't want to just be "serviced". It's like if I want to talk and he sort of shrugs and says, "Well I don't really feel like talking but I will sit here silently and you can talk to me if you must. But don't expect me to contribute to the conversation." Sex and physical intimacy for men is just as important as communication and emotional intimacy for women.
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I agree, not denying him is important. Doing your BEST to enjoy it is important.

But I will say that the phrase 'have to look at the girls at work' is unbiblical. He does not 'have to' look at them in a lustful way. He can 'take every thought captive' and refuse to let himself lust after other women. He can rebuke the lustful thoughts he has about other women as the temptation to sin that they are. And it is *not* his wife's fault if he does give in to that temptation and sin. His sin is HIS sin and it is on him. period.

Blaming the wife is wrong. Her husband is in control of his own body and he makes his own decisions. it's not a wife's fault if her husband cheats, or entertains lustful thoughts about other women, or looks at porn or anything else. She is *not* forcing him to sin. He is *choosing* to do so.
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Lori, you are always so quick to reply. Thank you! Can you give me examples of where it is stated when a husband deprives his wife? I seems like Mrs. M described a time when the tables were turned and her husband was not accomadating. I did not notice any replies suggesting that he was not following the Word and am left to wonder if this demand is solely directed at women despite several posts that steer me to think otherwise. Again, any insight is greatfully appreciated.
2 replies · active 333 weeks ago
Very interesting post which I wholeheartedly agree with (mostly)!

The only issue I have is the anal sex bit. Can you please point out the relevant scripture that says anal sex is a sin? I understand that the practice of homosexuality is a sin, but doesn't scripture say that the marriage bed is undefiled? Why is it sinful for a husband and wife to indulge in anal sex if they both enjoy it? What makes you think that "no normal man or woman" desires this? I would think it would be the contrary - all men have a prostate gland, and this is known as the 'hot spot' for men.

This is a genuine question - I'm genuinely seeking scripture to back up the claim of anal sex being bad - as it is something that a great many people enjoy, so if it truly does go against scripture rather than just being someone's opinion, I would truly like to know.
Thanks :)
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Lori, as a refused husband I am glad that Debi's book addressed this subject and that you have written on it. I have tried talking with my wife on this to little avail, even giving her printed copies of two of your posts on the subject. I will add this one to the stack but I no longer hold much hope she will read it or if she does, will act upon the information. I would purchase Debi's book for her if I thought she would read it but the two books by Shaunti Feldhahn that I gave her remain unread. Until There are good aspects to our nearly 36 year marriage but in some ways we are just house mates and until she has a change of heart will remain so despite my best efforts. I realize that God maybe using this to get me to trust in Him more fully and allow Him to make the necessary changes.
2 replies · active 338 weeks ago
The fundamental aspect in understanding Jesus Christ is sex. [my high school composition teacher said to start with a catchy statement]. Well, that is more than a catchy statement; it is truth. Sex is not primarily for procreation. It is for understanding Jesus Christ and how we have an intimate relationship with Him rather than with the harlot of this world. Being ‘fruitful’ is more than just multiplying. Genesis chapters 1-3 are the most under-rated scripture as it gives us the very basis of life and then the wrong turn into death. Consider how the author made a point [he didn’t have to include it] of saying before the fall that Adam and Eve were naked and not ashamed [Gen 2:25] and then makes the point that they were naked and ashamed, hiding and covering themselves [Gen 3:7,10,11]. Their broken relationship with God caused then to not only hide their bodies from God and from each other but their intimate beings also. They were now ashamed and would not naturally reveal who they were, in body and in being. That is us. That is the church. And that is what we fight every day, concealing who we really are, to God and our spouse [and on into others].

And equally important is that we accept the reciprocal; we now naturally reject our God and our spouse being intimate with us. Certainly this is metaphorical as we are married to Christ, but it is profoundly practical in that we gain understanding of ourselves and our spouses when we let loose while being naked, and certainly that applies with Christ as we are honest with Him about who we are and then about who He is [the robber on the cross was ‘naked’ about himself and about Christ next to him, and was promised paradise].

Without understanding this we really cannot find the final answer in Jesus Christ, the Word become flesh. If we are not ravished with our spouse, we cannot be ravished with our God. Yes, even those not married have to understand this principle. The foundational way spouses communicate is through sex. The Hebrew word for “they ‘knew’ they were naked” [Gen 3:7] and for Adam ‘knew’ Eve - sexual relation- [Gen 4:1] is the same word ‘yada’ #3045 in Strong’s: seeing, observation, care, recognition, instruction, acknowledge, perceive, respect, understand. Yada, yada, yada. And more yada!

And I suspect that even in sex outside marriage that it is not solely for the fun of sex but for the deep desire to have a meaningful relationship – to know and be known – which we all so really desire and need. It is no coincidence that the Devil, in presenting an ongoing lie about the Word of God, has both the church and the world telling us a lie: the church restricting nakedness in the marriage bed causing the world to promote nakedness on the street. Rather, quite literally, anything goes in the marriage bed that is solely between the spouses. There is no act that, in exploring your spouse or revealing yourself – in knowing them, is off limits. That part of your spouse that you do not want to know about or that part of yourself that you do not want to reveal is playing into the hand of sin – ‘they were naked and ashamed.’ Refute that!

The church has historically created all kinds of arguments and traditions that are simply of men and not of God. Both the OT and NT warn of lies perpetrated by the world and the church. This is the first and foremost lie for as the marriage bed goes so goes the marriage, the kids, the church, and the world. It is ground zero for fighting self and our temptations and for giving of self and ministering the message of Jesus Christ Himself, modeling Christ and His church - seeking Him and wanting to be sought by Him.
Good comment Dave,

and something not well understood in the church is that to "know and be known" fully by a spouse and by the Lord is the basis upon which intimacy is built. It is the hidden and off limits areas of our lives that destroy true intimacy. I am not sure I would go so far as to say, "anything goes in the marriage bed that is solely between the spouses," but in principle I agree that within reason and health safety, a spouse should give themselves over to the exploration of the other spouse to be fully known, including to understand what the other person enjoys and finds pleasure and bonding.

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