Tuesday, July 5, 2016

Let's Bash Men and Put Them in Their Place!


Women accuse me of hating women. How could I hate them when I spend so much time writing to them the ways of the Lord? I am a woman. I love being a woman. I have never had a desire to be a man nor do a man’s job. I am deeply satisfied with the way the Lord has created me. I understand the role He has given me and it is good. I love being feminine, however, I also respect men and their role in society. I love the men of my family and extended family.

I am, however, deeply saddened how male bashing is perfectly okay in our culture. I am even more deeply saddened how lukewarm the Church is becoming. It has watered-down God’s principles and His will for our lives. Here is an example. Have you heard of Lisa Bevere? To be honest, I don’t know much about her but someone pointed out an article on her blog. It was written by a man named Kris Vallotton and he bashes men by explaining all the horrible things men have done. He fails to name anything they have accomplished like invent and build everything that we are blessed with today. What about all the good Presidents, Leaders, and Preachers who were men? He conveniently overlooked them. Why did he bash men? In order to prove that women should be in leadership positions in the Church!

Mr. Vallotton accused the Church of being biblically inaccurate in allowing women to be leaders in the Church but failed to use one Bible verse to prove this false teaching. Here is a paragraph from his post ~

I have an amazing wife, two daughters, a daughter-in-law and three granddaughters that wake up every day to a world of discrimination simply because of their gender. But the most troubling aspect of this oppression is that the Church is often found leading it! Many believers have developed a theology that proactively uses the Bible to disqualify women from the most formidable roles of leadership, especially in the Church. I am appalled by the number of Christian leaders who are convinced that women are not as qualified, called, and/or gifted to lead as men are.

Can you tell me how this man manipulates this scripture to mean that women should teach in the Church? But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet {1 Timothy 2:12}. How about this one? Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. And if they will learn anything, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church {1 Corinthians 14:34}. The qualifications for elders and deacons are "the husband of one wife." I am not sure how Paul could have written any more clearly.

In Vallotton's thinking, it’s oppression that is causing women to not have leadership positions in the church. The Bible clearly teaches that women shouldn’t be leaders in the Church. I have written about this topic several times. It doesn’t mean women are inferior to men in any way and they are certainly not oppressed. God has given them different roles. We are the ones who have babies and get to raise them for the Lord. There are numerous ways we can serve in society and in the Church. Many are in need and the loving hand of a woman is just what would soothe and comfort them.

This article disgusts me as I am sure it will do the same to many of you. I expect to be disgusted by teachings of the world but for someone who calls themselves a believer to write something so contrary to Truth is speaking evil about God's Word. This is called blasphemy and teachings like this are leading many astray. Don't listen to women preachers. Don't agree with writings such as this that are completely opposed to the Word of God. This is why you must be in the Word daily to see clearly right from wrong. Rejoice in who the Lord made you and the role He has given you!

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The only place they need to be put, is in our hearts.
Jilly oxo
2 replies · active 455 weeks ago
Your husband must appreciate you!
Yes he does Lori and he often tells me. I know I am so blessed; God is so wonderful.💟💟💟
"The Lamb of God was slain from the foundation of the world. He GAVE up his life, which is the only way anyone was able to place him there. It was my sin and your sin that nailed him there. To say otherwise is not being honest (not to mention fair to men). "

This was a powerful statement, Vicki! Yes, we all put Him on the cross and He died for all. What a wonderful Savior we serve. Blessings to you!
I love how you said, "It's not about not being gifted, it's about being authorized."
Lori you stated (regarding men) that they " invent and build everything that we are blessed with today."

I must respectfully disagree in that there have been many many, many women architects, inventors, scientists, doctors, etc. throughout history who have contributed greatly to everything we are blessed with today. For example, Rosalind Franklin was part of the team of scientists who modeled the structure of DNA -- the beginning of molecular biology.

If we assume that *only* men are capable of inventing and building, then we ignore and downgrade and dismiss the contributions of women in those areas.

This is the gender discrimination that Mr, Vallotton writes of -- dismissal of women's contributions in building and inventing all the wonderful things we have today *because* they are women.
1 reply · active 455 weeks ago
By far, it has been men who have built and invented most things. They are the ones who have built highways, jets, cars, roads, homes, appliances, etc. You can name one woman that discovered something but you will have to agree that it is men that invented and built the lion's share of what we are blessed with today.
I followed the link you provided to read his entire post. He draws very disturbing and flawed conclusions. Stating his opinions as though they are facts. Neglecting to address the bible to evaluate his beliefs, instead using wordly patterns of sin to make his point. He mentioned his belief that men feel the need to put down women to build themselves up, yet he put down men to build up women. He said men are 5 times more likely to carry out the devil's schemes than women...perhaps by the examples he gave, but sin comes in many forms! Disobedience, rebellion, refusing sex, asserting authority over the husband. He said women are more prone to be humble and gentle...not true! How Christians can assume the love of Jesus for women was intended to elevate their roles rather than to validate them is beyond me. Do not be deceived.
1 reply · active 455 weeks ago
When he wrote that women are more prone to be humble and gentle, I wondered what circles he is living among! I wouldn't need to have this ministry if this was true and God wouldn't have commanded women to have gentle and quiet spirits. The problem with believing something like this (women should be in authority positions) is that it is a slippery slope to believing many things that are against the clear teachings of the Word.
Thank you Lori for this post. It is so sad that people will try to justify their way of thinking by manipulating God's Word. Satan tries so hard to elevate woman because he knows how easy it can be to deceive them.Just like in the garden. He went to Eve first not Adam. I am so thankful to be a woman and live for God. There are so many wonderful things we can do for the Lord. I am thankful for God's structure and authority. I know His ways are right and true. May the Lord open the minds and hearts of women to see God's truth and obey it. Praise the Lord for His ways which are Holy and true.
1 reply · active 455 weeks ago
I love His ways also, Alisha, and I wonder what makes some who claim to be Christians try to manipulate what the Lord has clearly taught us in His Word for their own purposes. What good can possibly come from doing this? There are plenty of great male preachers and teachers of the Word. Why do women think that they need to take on the men's role when they are told they are not supposed to?
I often wonder if this problem is an American problem or perhaps I don't mix with those kind of women, because I have never been around women doing this kind of thing. I find this topic very interesting. I cannot imagine not building Ant up and loving him. My question is why do people get married if all they want to do is tear their spouse down? Sad very sad.
Jilly oxo
1 reply · active 455 weeks ago
I had a conversation with a woman just last night about this very topic. There seems to be a consensus amongst some women that when we get fall in love, we marry a "blank canvas" that we can create whatever we want to, on it. In other words, we can see the potential in the man (of course the potential we see in him may not be the potential he wants to be, or God wants him to be) and when the man that we fell in love doesn't change into what we want to mould him into, we get bitter and resentful and tear him down in order that we can rebuild him the way we want him to be.
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Lady Virtue · 455 weeks ago

It seems like "man bashing" is the only politically correct pastime left. It's especially sad when men professing to be Christian do so themselves, often within churches, throwing their own under the bus and further inflating the egos of women in the process. Sadly, there was a time when I would have agreed with this feminist pandering. Reading the Scriptures--and the Holy Ghost--has since made God's male/female creation and ordering very clear to me.

I do thank the Lord for the ingenuity and strength He has given to men to build up civilization. There are needful jobs men fill that most women could not or would not do.

As the Bible says, quit ye like men; be strong.
1 reply · active 455 weeks ago
I agree with you, Lady Virtue! Most men have the strength that women simply do not have. Building things takes a lot of strength. The Church needs to be building up the role of the male and the female according to his Word since when they both do their part, things run a lot more smoothly.
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ContentWife · 455 weeks ago

Dear Mrs. Lori,
Thanks for a great article again.

"Mr. Vallotton accused the Church of being biblically inaccurate in NOT allowing women to be leaders in the Church..."
"Can you tell me how this man manipulates this scripture to mean that women SHOULD teach in the Church..." I'm pretty sure that's what you meant instead of what you wrote, right?

Much of what women say about men would be considered absolutely unacceptable if said of women! If a man says, "Let's put them in their place." Oh my, he's in big trouble! But if a woman says that about a man? Yes, ma'am!

It's "NOT okay" to have mostly men employees, but having more than 50% women employed? Yes, ma'am!

When the man is the leader of the home, what "oppression"! But when a woman wears the pants? Yes, ma'am!

I am thankful that we live in a part of the world where women are generally honoured. But, women, let's not take advantage of it!
1 reply · active 455 weeks ago
You are right, ContentWife. I fixed it! Thank you.
You know the thing that puzzles me, if Christianity has such a supposedly low view of women, and the church has supposedly oppressed women, why is it that women are entrusted with bringing up the next generation? Our society has a very low view of child raising and children in general, which is why we view women being entrusted with that job as women getting the scraps while men get to go out and do "better more important things" (like preach).

But bringing up the next generation is literally THE most important job, because if that job doesn't get done correctly, all the other jobs are pointless. It doesn't matter what technological advances are made, what scientific discoveries, or political achievements are made, if in 50 years it all goes down the toilet because the next generation is not ready and able to take up the torch and carry it on. So if Christianity has such a low view of women, why are women entrusted with this vital job, of bearing children and being their primary caregivers and teachers? This country is a perfect example. Many of the Founding Fathers achievements have been rendered moot by succeeding generations who have dropped the torch, so that many of those men would be appalled to see the state of things today.

(I do realize women are not solely entrusted with the job of raising children, men are commanded to lead their families and teach their children, but I think most of us would agree that the mother is usually the primary one doing the day to day teaching and influencing, at least she is if she is where she is supposed to be, at home!)

Leading in the church is only one way to serve God. Many other avenues of service are open to us. Really it all boils down to this, is serving God about doing what we want to do/doing the job we feel would best fulfill us/ making us happy, or is serving God about doing what HE asks us to do, regardless of how we feel about the particular task? We need to be content with the role God has given us, not envy men's role.
1 reply · active 455 weeks ago
Spurgeon had a great devotional about this the other day, Mrs. M. He wrote that we are to use whatever the Lord has called us to do to minister to others about the Lord and serve them. It matters not at all if we are preachers or missionaries. We can do it right where we are!
I mostly agree with you but I can't see the problem with female pastors. My SIL is a priest/ minister ( I don't know which word is the correct one, but she is the leader of a congregation in our State Church) in the Church is Sweden and so is her husband. I can't find any differences in their sermons or teachings.
I see female priests as a natural step after every other occupation has been opened to women.
I do understand what you mean with your bible quotes but I really can't get my head around why female leaders in the church is so wrong. Yes, a woman is not the head over a man, but then it's not her own beliefs my Sister in Law is sharing during the sermon, it's the Words from our Lord.
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Just because you can't get your "head around" it doesn't mean it is right. According to the Bible, it is clearly wrong, Ida. Either you are going to believe the Word of God or believe what you have decided to believe is right. There is no middle ground here.
Deciding that something is harmless that the bible clearly warns against, just because we reason away the problems with it, can put us on a slippery slope. James 1:8 reads:" A double minded man is unstable in all of his ways." A version I like of this is the NLT "Their loyalty is divided between God and the world, and they are unstable in everything they do." Essentially, Christians are supposed to be the salt and light of the world, those who are set apart, different from the world. Unfortunately, the church has too fallen prey (along with the world) to feminism and to what's considered politically correct. It's losing its saltiness, becoming so relavant that it hardly distinguishes itself from the world any longer.

Many women are extremely talented teachers and ministers. However, just because we posses a gift doesn't give us the right to exercise it. Consider all Jesus was subjected to, yet he opened not his mouth. Isaiah 53:7: "He was oppressed, and he was afflicted, yet he opened not his mouth; like a lamb that is led to the slaughter, and like a sheep that before its shearers is silent, so he opened not his mouth." Jesus easily could've destroyed all of His oppressors with a word, but He remained obedient.
It's not always easy to be obedient but the Holy Spirit who lives in us assists us to will and act according to what pleases God (Phillipians 2:13).
1 reply · active 455 weeks ago
This is a wonderful comment. Thank you! Many women will say that God wants them to use their gifts and talents so they should be able to leave their children with someone else so they can pursue these. The same is with women preachers. They "feel called" and gifted by God with the ability to preach so they should. It is a very slippery slope and often they are teaching things that aren't biblical.
Lori, I come to your blog for a fresh look at being a wife and mother! Thank you for following the Bible as a guideline for your teaching. I am shocked at how far the church has come in now following concise guidelines from the Bible (eg. women pastors, etc.).

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